Dennis McKenna

You don't care. You could go all day. I could go all day.

Of course they would. I don't know. But yeah, so Bionosis is a project that we've been working on for... Depending on when you start counting. So I worked in my career, I worked very closely with this gentleman in Iquitos named Juan Ruiz, who was the curator of the herbarium at the university there. And I've known him for 50 years. We worked together. I came as a graduate student in 1981.

Of course they would. I don't know. But yeah, so Bionosis is a project that we've been working on for... Depending on when you start counting. So I worked in my career, I worked very closely with this gentleman in Iquitos named Juan Ruiz, who was the curator of the herbarium at the university there. And I've known him for 50 years. We worked together. I came as a graduate student in 1981.

Of course they would. I don't know. But yeah, so Bionosis is a project that we've been working on for... Depending on when you start counting. So I worked in my career, I worked very closely with this gentleman in Iquitos named Juan Ruiz, who was the curator of the herbarium at the university there. And I've known him for 50 years. We worked together. I came as a graduate student in 1981.

He was a student there at the time, and he was, at the time, he was designated to be my guide, basically, by the guy who directed the herbarium at the time. And I'm sure... The conversation was basically, this gringo's here. He's an idiot. He's a tenderfoot. Just take him to the field and get some plants. Make sure he gets back alive. And he did.

He was a student there at the time, and he was, at the time, he was designated to be my guide, basically, by the guy who directed the herbarium at the time. And I'm sure... The conversation was basically, this gringo's here. He's an idiot. He's a tenderfoot. Just take him to the field and get some plants. Make sure he gets back alive. And he did.

He was a student there at the time, and he was, at the time, he was designated to be my guide, basically, by the guy who directed the herbarium at the time. And I'm sure... The conversation was basically, this gringo's here. He's an idiot. He's a tenderfoot. Just take him to the field and get some plants. Make sure he gets back alive. And he did.

And we collected some plants, and we formed a friendship. And we've collaborated on various projects over the years. Juan is an amazing person. He is a scientist. He's a trained botanist, but he's also a medicine man. He understands the use of these plants, and he grew up in Iquitos, so he knows the communities and the communities around there on the rivers and so on. None of it's written down.

And we collected some plants, and we formed a friendship. And we've collaborated on various projects over the years. Juan is an amazing person. He is a scientist. He's a trained botanist, but he's also a medicine man. He understands the use of these plants, and he grew up in Iquitos, so he knows the communities and the communities around there on the rivers and so on. None of it's written down.

And we collected some plants, and we formed a friendship. And we've collaborated on various projects over the years. Juan is an amazing person. He is a scientist. He's a trained botanist, but he's also a medicine man. He understands the use of these plants, and he grew up in Iquitos, so he knows the communities and the communities around there on the rivers and so on. None of it's written down.

And it's all in his head. So partly this plan, if you can scroll up, there's a description of it. We have various aspects, various elements of this. What we want to do is make documentaries about this herbarium, which we have made. This Bionosis film, it's about a 30-minute film, is basically about the herbarium and what happens. what is being lost, the importance of the herbarium.

And it's all in his head. So partly this plan, if you can scroll up, there's a description of it. We have various aspects, various elements of this. What we want to do is make documentaries about this herbarium, which we have made. This Bionosis film, it's about a 30-minute film, is basically about the herbarium and what happens. what is being lost, the importance of the herbarium.

And it's all in his head. So partly this plan, if you can scroll up, there's a description of it. We have various aspects, various elements of this. What we want to do is make documentaries about this herbarium, which we have made. This Bionosis film, it's about a 30-minute film, is basically about the herbarium and what happens. what is being lost, the importance of the herbarium.

The word?

The word?

The word?

Herbarium is like a library of dried plant specimens. That's what it is, basically. The podcast I sent you from – what's the podcast? In Defense of Plants. That fellow is the director of the herbarium at the Missouri Botanical Garden. And the reason it blew my mind when I stumbled on that is the Missouri Botanical Garden has a very close relationship to this herbarium in Iquitos.

Herbarium is like a library of dried plant specimens. That's what it is, basically. The podcast I sent you from – what's the podcast? In Defense of Plants. That fellow is the director of the herbarium at the Missouri Botanical Garden. And the reason it blew my mind when I stumbled on that is the Missouri Botanical Garden has a very close relationship to this herbarium in Iquitos.

Herbarium is like a library of dried plant specimens. That's what it is, basically. The podcast I sent you from – what's the podcast? In Defense of Plants. That fellow is the director of the herbarium at the Missouri Botanical Garden. And the reason it blew my mind when I stumbled on that is the Missouri Botanical Garden has a very close relationship to this herbarium in Iquitos.

One of their chief botanists at the time, Al Gentry, collected out of the UNAP herbarium at the Universidad Nacional Amazonía de Peruana in Iquitos. He collected out of there. So when I was looking for something else and saw this podcast, I thought, this is an amazing connection. I'm going to get in touch with him, see if we can initiate a collaboration. Because what we want to do...