Dennis Whyte

How does that happen?

Well, we're clever, but you have to give ITER its due here as well too.

Again, this is an aspect always of the bootstrap up.

I go back to the Human Genome Project.

So modern day genomics would not be possible without the underlying basis that came from setting that up.

It had to be there.

It had to be curiosity-driven public program.

It's the same with ITER, but because we had the tools that were there to understand ITER, we also had the tools to understand SPARC.

So we parlayed those in an extremely powerful way to be able to tell us about what was going to happen.

So these things are never simple, right?

It's like people look at this and go, oh, this means we should, like, should we really have a public-based program about fusion or should we have it all in the private?

It's like, no, the answer is neither way because in all these complex technologies, you have to keep pushing on all the fronts to actually get it there.

partly driven by us, but in other places as well too.

So there's the advent, what's, you know, what's so different now than three or four years ago, like we launched around four years ago.

What's so different now is, is the advent of a very nascent, but seemingly robust, like commercial fusion, you know, endeavor.

So it's not just Commonwealth fusion systems.

There's something like 20 plus, you know, companies.

There's a sector now.

There's a sector now.

They actually have something called the Fusion Industry Association, which if your viewers want to go see this, this describes the difference.