Dennis Whyte

Yeah.

And so it really comes to, we talked about philosophy.

It's like a design philosophy.

Like how do you attack these kinds of problems?

And you do it like that.

And it's hard to imagine a more powerful force than like 15 MIT PhD students, like working together towards solving a problem.

And what I always, in fact, we just, we recently just taught the most recent, you know, I say I teach it, I mean, I guide it, actually.

The most recent version of this, where they actually designed, you know, based on this National Academies report, they actually designed, like, a pilot plant that has basis and similarities to what we had done before, but…

You know, I kept wanting to like push the envelope and where they are.

It's like the creativity and the energy that they bring to these things is kind of like, it keeps me going.

Like, you know, I'm not going to retire anytime soon when I keep seeing that kind of dedication and it's wonderful.

around on that um it almost not to overuse a um uh uh or to paraphrase something right which is that you know the the famous um quote by margaret mead you know never doubt that a small group of dedicated you know persons will change the world indeed it's the only thing that ever has

Actually, Three Mile Island wasn't really a disaster because nothing escaped from the thing, but...

Chernobyl and Fukushima have had obvious consequences in the populations that live nearby.

So to be clear, fusion has intrinsic safety with respect to it can't run away.

Those are physics bases.

Technology and engineering bases of running a complex, again, anything that makes large amounts of power and heats things up has got intrinsic safety in it.

And by the fact that we actually produce very energetic particles, this doesn't mean that there's no radiation involved in ionizing radiation, to be more accurate.

Right.

It's just that it's in a very different order of magnitude, basically.