DeRay McKesson

And then she was like, yeah, you know, they make like $40 a day off of us.

And I'm, so me being curious, I'm like, where'd you get that number from?

And then I was like, oh, it's fucking four people to a cell, 16.

So I was like, God damn.

And this is one thing.

Like, this is one wing.

There's two wings on every floor.

And then seven floors.

I'm like, God damn.

And that's just this county.

There's a jail in every county.

And that's not to mention, like, I know there's counties much bigger than this, much, you know, and like the way that they basically are creating many prisons now, the way that they restructure jails is not, there's really no difference between what a jail and a prison looks like.

Whereas before it would be slightly different, you know what I mean?

And I don't want to call them amenities, but just that day to day is different.

And now, from what I know now, it's like they mirror each other.

And it's really just a preparation more than it is anything else.

It's not like this entry-level punishment where it's like, scared straight, we make a break.

No, it's like they put you right into what it's going to be when you go to prison.

So there is really no transition.

There is really no...