DeRay McKesson

I do.

You do.

I do, absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Well, now I know that, though.

See, before, I had no idea that I was, like, I'm engaged with policy all the time.

But now, yeah, now that I know that, I'm finna pop that shit.

Like, for real.

Yeah, they're going to policy change.

You know what I'm saying?

But, yeah, the biggest thing, I talk to my sons about this all the time.

How old are they?

14 and 12.

uh eighth and six yeah yeah sixth grade is the most important grade of math by the way he loves math he hates everything else and he's like literally bro i've been having to get i'm trying to get his mind wrapped around like you can't phone it in in sixth grade like you have so much further to go but he's just like he was like this is not interesting to me he was i was like but you want to be an architect so you better get interested

Yeah, yeah, he needs it.

Yeah, for sure.

I got you.

Because I'm trying, like, we try to get him into, you know, some of the more funner aspects of it.

And the game, even the game, like the gamified version of architecture, he's just not interested.