DeRay McKesson

I don't think you should go to prison for stealing.

Prison?

That's what I'm saying.

Even if it's a TV, it's like, nigga, okay, you need a TV.

You know what I'm saying?

Because obviously, you're not stealing it to watch the TV.

You're stealing it so you can sell it so you can have money.

And I think...

People that get to dictate the punishment of crimes should understand crime.

There should be more people like me involved in that because this is not a violent crime.

This is something that people are doing to put food in their mouths.

So then we go to, okay, let me have an understanding of this crime.

And let me have control over the punishment of this crime from that place of understanding.

And then listen to state social programs so you don't feel like you need to steal a T-shirt.

Um...

That's interesting.

The first thing I think about is, like, how I simulate consequences with my kids.

So, like, for instance, I tell my kids, like, stay out of my room when I'm not home.

So if I catch them in my room, and, like, while they're in the midst of, like, entertaining friends and stuff, I just go in their room.

I just stay in there.