DeRay McKesson

Yeah.

This is all kind of blowing my fucking mind a little bit.

Seeing the numbers is really throwing me off because we all have an idea of what it is.

I think what y'all are doing is literally mapping it out.

As interested as I am, I know it's kind of disheartening to see how ICE is going to play into this because it's not police violence, but it's state violence at the same time.

In what ways... How do you prepare...

citizens to deal with.

I'm wondering if there's any training that's been done or any programs that's been done for citizens just in how to deal with violent police, even though you shouldn't have to.

How do you even talk to citizens about starting to prepare for state violence or to deal with people who want to engage in state violence without encouraging them to be violent as well?

Yeah, and it also doesn't,

Because there's an overwhelming number of them, one situation has like 10 ICE officers there, which is like, yeah, bro, the presence of them and what they represent is just, yeah.

Yeah.

I would say less than 5%.

It's 5%.

Yeah.

Because the thing is, once the violence has happened, you're there.

Y'all are being caught in the aftermath.

Police are not really preemptive in preventing anything.

They're more so responders.

That's what they do.