DeRay McKesson

My anxiety rises as soon as I see a cop car, even if I'm not doing anything.

Yeah.

I'm like, oh, shit.

Black people, at first, they're like, we in the car, and we see the police, we're like, they're going to the police.

It's like, we ain't even doing shit.

So then how do you combat the... I guess it's random, though.

It's so random.

And I wonder how frequent it is that

a random traffic violation turns violent from citizen to officer.

That has to be a very low rate.

But this is the argument that they're always going to put.

Well, you know, I could be walking into a very dangerous situation.

And I think this is where we get into the distinction of traffic violation versus violent offender or traffic violation versus law enforcement is that if I'm pulling you over for a traffic infraction and my lights are purple...

you automatically know that this person doesn't have a gun.

And maybe I don't need to engage in violence with them because I don't have to worry about that.

But the police are engaging in every stop to get more.

They want to get more.

I want more and more information.

I'm looking for a reason to lock your ass up.

Instead of it just being, hey, your taillight's out.