Derek Black

We're talking about people on the public dollar retreating into their religious silos, into their racial silos, into their culture silos. And if there's anything I think that we could all agree on is listening to only the people that you like on Twitter or listening only to the people that you like for the evening news is what got us here.

And if what we have is education that becomes the equivalent of MSNBC and Fox News and Newsmax and whatever else, that is a dangerous place. I don't know how we build democracy on such a system.

And if what we have is education that becomes the equivalent of MSNBC and Fox News and Newsmax and whatever else, that is a dangerous place. I don't know how we build democracy on such a system.

And if what we have is education that becomes the equivalent of MSNBC and Fox News and Newsmax and whatever else, that is a dangerous place. I don't know how we build democracy on such a system.

Well, I'll say this. Public schools can't solve all of democracy's problem, be a fool to say otherwise. But if what we're doing is talking about education itself, I think number one is that I think our leaders need to understand, better understand the dangers of education. you know, vouchers, for instance, like right now, and I'm writing about this, like they think it's just a policy dispute.

Well, I'll say this. Public schools can't solve all of democracy's problem, be a fool to say otherwise. But if what we're doing is talking about education itself, I think number one is that I think our leaders need to understand, better understand the dangers of education. you know, vouchers, for instance, like right now, and I'm writing about this, like they think it's just a policy dispute.

Well, I'll say this. Public schools can't solve all of democracy's problem, be a fool to say otherwise. But if what we're doing is talking about education itself, I think number one is that I think our leaders need to understand, better understand the dangers of education. you know, vouchers, for instance, like right now, and I'm writing about this, like they think it's just a policy dispute.

And like, if you just look at the surface level, it's like, well, who cares if we give some more vouchers and that makes the most far reaches of our party happy. But like, I think sort of really stepping back and appreciating how dangerous this is to our democracy is step one. And that's hard, right? I'm talking about teaching adults to see things differently than what they currently see them.

And like, if you just look at the surface level, it's like, well, who cares if we give some more vouchers and that makes the most far reaches of our party happy. But like, I think sort of really stepping back and appreciating how dangerous this is to our democracy is step one. And that's hard, right? I'm talking about teaching adults to see things differently than what they currently see them.

And like, if you just look at the surface level, it's like, well, who cares if we give some more vouchers and that makes the most far reaches of our party happy. But like, I think sort of really stepping back and appreciating how dangerous this is to our democracy is step one. And that's hard, right? I'm talking about teaching adults to see things differently than what they currently see them.

But as to our schools, I mean, I've got a little bit of stiff medicine for both sides. I mean, I do think that in the push for more justice in our public schools, and I think we do need – I mean, that's what I've devoted my career to. I do think that – Well, I don't think our schools did any of the awful stuff that the right has said.

But as to our schools, I mean, I've got a little bit of stiff medicine for both sides. I mean, I do think that in the push for more justice in our public schools, and I think we do need – I mean, that's what I've devoted my career to. I do think that – Well, I don't think our schools did any of the awful stuff that the right has said.

But as to our schools, I mean, I've got a little bit of stiff medicine for both sides. I mean, I do think that in the push for more justice in our public schools, and I think we do need – I mean, that's what I've devoted my career to. I do think that – Well, I don't think our schools did any of the awful stuff that the right has said.

But I do think that they maybe were not as open to people disagreeing with them as they should have been. And what I really mean is in the push for justice, I think there was a bit of shutting down conversation, not teaching children to reach their own conclusions, but giving them conclusions and expecting them to reach them. And so

But I do think that they maybe were not as open to people disagreeing with them as they should have been. And what I really mean is in the push for justice, I think there was a bit of shutting down conversation, not teaching children to reach their own conclusions, but giving them conclusions and expecting them to reach them. And so

But I do think that they maybe were not as open to people disagreeing with them as they should have been. And what I really mean is in the push for justice, I think there was a bit of shutting down conversation, not teaching children to reach their own conclusions, but giving them conclusions and expecting them to reach them. And so

One of the things I'm working on in my new book is that I really think we have to rethink how we teach history, how we teach literature. Maybe not so much literature. I think our literature teachers are pretty good. But rethink how we teach those things such that we are not committed to our children reaching particular conclusions. What we're committed to...

One of the things I'm working on in my new book is that I really think we have to rethink how we teach history, how we teach literature. Maybe not so much literature. I think our literature teachers are pretty good. But rethink how we teach those things such that we are not committed to our children reaching particular conclusions. What we're committed to...

One of the things I'm working on in my new book is that I really think we have to rethink how we teach history, how we teach literature. Maybe not so much literature. I think our literature teachers are pretty good. But rethink how we teach those things such that we are not committed to our children reaching particular conclusions. What we're committed to...

is our children engaging in free and open thought amongst themselves, right? With hopefully an adult in the room that can establish some guidelines. But I think public education didn't do that very well five years ago, 10 years ago, 30 years ago when I was there. But I think in this moment of cultural fracture, we do really have to commit to