Derek Chisora

Do you know what sort of tank this is?

It's an armoured personnel carrier.

They were used in Kosovo.

There's one or two still in service around the world.

It's capable of carrying 10, maybe 12, but 10 probably fully armed troops straight up towards combat zones.

I probably need more protection than him.

One, two, one, two, test, one, two.

Test, test, test, one, two.

It's all part of the new podcast.

I wouldn't want to be photographed in here.

Oh, fine.

I mean, it's been a...

It's my last party political engagement after a month on the road, before Easter.

And then we've got the boxing one coming this afternoon.

as I understand it, I'm going to be in a tank with Derek Chisora over Tower Bridge, actually.

I'm going to say I was incredibly thoughtful about it, but I do have huge sympathy for, especially for pre-2016 pensioners who are massively disadvantaged by the pensions cliff, but I'm also quite concerned

about post-2016 pensioners, many of whom now have been dragged into taxation by the freezing of tax limits.

And as a party, we very much picked a side, which is working people.

And these are retired people who've worked and paid in all their lives.

All right.