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Like it's like something that you have to go out of your way to do wherever you are.

You're traveling, whatever.

Like you will go hypogonadal with pretty quick if you don't get in the bathroom and wipe some cream on your balls.

Yeah.

Oh yeah, if you want to be optimal, the problem is a lot of people will favor adherence and sustainability similar to diet over optimal.

And that's fine.

You just have to be accepting of the risk profile that comes along with it.

Yeah.

When it comes to prostates, that is something that at least based on the most recent literature that I'm aware of is, are you familiar with the androgen saturation model?

Basically, if you go from hyper... Oh, yes, yes.

Yeah.

So essentially...

from what I understand based on most recent literature it shows that if you go from hypogonadal to eugonadal or like the threshold of it which is like you know on a reference range roughly like 300 plus nanograms per deciliter going from hypo to that that differential will be positively stimulating of like prostate growth you know PSA levels will go up etc but beyond that you are not necessarily in a dose dependent manner like a muscle

or something going to be inducing size increases like if you took even if that were the case you'd have bodybuilders who take you know thousands of milligrams of steroids per week they would have prostates like busting out of their bodies at that point so it's not necessarily the case but it's not like it's

it's still worth monitoring your PSA for trends and longitudinal patterns as you get older, because it will still have the same susceptibility to things that happen as you age.

But the actual impact on prostate-related issues and growing cancer from scratch, if you don't have pre-existing cancer cells, you're not going to spawn cancer from taking testosterone.

So I think that risk is a little bit overblown.

Fortunately, we have data that seems to be pretty strongly indicating that

You're not going to have to worry about that if you are somebody who is otherwise healthy, cancer-free, and you're just going from like, you know, like you would probably have a small prostate to begin with if you were hypogonadal anyways.

You're probably just going to where you would be if you had normal levels.