Derek (Radiolab interviewee)

And it was very, you know, here and there.

Yeah.

So I would be in a car and I'd be looking out the window.

I would imagine this man, he would look like a superhero or something.

And he would just be running really fast along all of these cars and then jumping and flying and like doing flips.

And by focusing really intensely, it's almost like I can switch to primarily the visualization and it can start to replace what I'm seeing more fully.

Yeah, I can tell it's a projection.

I graduated high school a year early, and I didn't really want to go off into university.

So I ended up moving to Seattle.

I was really wanting to be somewhere more open-minded, where the tech industry was prominent because I am into computer programming.

Couch surfed for a while.

Yeah, I was sleeping in a bed in someone's laundry room in their basement.

So it was very much just like being on the sidelines of life, really badly wanting to find some kind of escape.

I remember I had these coins.

I was flipping over and over again.

That I could make them land on whatever I wanted them to.

Like using his mind.

If I wanted them to both land heads up, then they would land heads up.

If I wanted them to land heads down, they would land heads down.

Heads up.