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Derek Thompson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
8270 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

We want zoning laws to be better.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

We want permitting laws to be better.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

We want energy construction project laws to be better.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I don't want a future that's just dueling parties, claiming emergency powers to do whatever the executive branch wants until the end of time.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

That doesn't seem like a particularly healthy path for democracy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

That said, Donald Trump is definitely pushing on a really interesting point, which is that I think that

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Liberals, the Democratic Party in the last 50 years in particular, and this is a thesis that's latent or sometimes even made explicit in abundance, have been too consumed with process, have been too obsessed with let's make sure that we create processes that listen to every possible group before moving forward with the outcome rather than focusing on outcomes in the first place.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

That's absolutely a theme of abundance, this liberal almost fetishization of process.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Donald Trump does not fetishize process.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

That's for damn sure.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And so there's a way in which he's almost like the Wario of the opposite of โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And he points to the ways in which you can go too far on both dimensions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

You can be a party that is too obsessed with procedure, and you can be a party that is so uninterested in procedure and so taken with the ability of the executive branch or whatever ruling party is in power to just run roughshod over the law by claiming emergency powers forever.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Those are two different extremes.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I want to land somewhere in the middle.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

There are examples from the book of...

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Democratic leaders declaring sort of an emergency and using that emergency to do what I think is objective good.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

So the classic example from our book is when the I-95 bridge fell down in Pennsylvania.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Josh Shapiro declares an emergency.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

He sweeps away a bunch of permitting and NEPA rules in order to build the bridge back as fast as possible.