Derek Thompson

The late night shows are becoming more like YouTube podcasts at the same time that the YouTube podcasts are becoming more like late night shows in the way that they film, in the way that they cut, in the way that they sometimes mix a little bit of interview with a little bit of play. And even sometimes this is literal, right?

The late night shows are becoming more like YouTube podcasts at the same time that the YouTube podcasts are becoming more like late night shows in the way that they film, in the way that they cut, in the way that they sometimes mix a little bit of interview with a little bit of play. And even sometimes this is literal, right?

The late night shows are becoming more like YouTube podcasts at the same time that the YouTube podcasts are becoming more like late night shows in the way that they film, in the way that they cut, in the way that they sometimes mix a little bit of interview with a little bit of play. And even sometimes this is literal, right?

When ESPN wants to add a new, whatever it is, late morning, early afternoon show, they're not necessarily launching something from scratch. They're going straight to YouTube and saying, Pat McAfee, we're just going to take your YouTube show and just basically simulcast it on ESPN.

When ESPN wants to add a new, whatever it is, late morning, early afternoon show, they're not necessarily launching something from scratch. They're going straight to YouTube and saying, Pat McAfee, we're just going to take your YouTube show and just basically simulcast it on ESPN.

When ESPN wants to add a new, whatever it is, late morning, early afternoon show, they're not necessarily launching something from scratch. They're going straight to YouTube and saying, Pat McAfee, we're just going to take your YouTube show and just basically simulcast it on ESPN.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some YouTube networks start to try to take shows that maybe failed in the cable bundle, but then might work with the economics of YouTube because it's very different than the economics of cable.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some YouTube networks start to try to take shows that maybe failed in the cable bundle, but then might work with the economics of YouTube because it's very different than the economics of cable.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some YouTube networks start to try to take shows that maybe failed in the cable bundle, but then might work with the economics of YouTube because it's very different than the economics of cable.

So I think something that we're going to see, I mean, it's obviously already happening right now, but something that we're going to see is that these things are going to blend. The next Jimmy Cable is going to look a lot like a successful Netflix or YouTube experiment with someone like John Mulaney.

So I think something that we're going to see, I mean, it's obviously already happening right now, but something that we're going to see is that these things are going to blend. The next Jimmy Cable is going to look a lot like a successful Netflix or YouTube experiment with someone like John Mulaney.

So I think something that we're going to see, I mean, it's obviously already happening right now, but something that we're going to see is that these things are going to blend. The next Jimmy Cable is going to look a lot like a successful Netflix or YouTube experiment with someone like John Mulaney.

At the same time that Netflix is so very clearly just trying to have the next Jimmy Fallon with John Mulaney, right? So I think we're going to see these success models come together.

At the same time that Netflix is so very clearly just trying to have the next Jimmy Fallon with John Mulaney, right? So I think we're going to see these success models come together.

At the same time that Netflix is so very clearly just trying to have the next Jimmy Fallon with John Mulaney, right? So I think we're going to see these success models come together.

Yeah, this is where it'd probably be useful to phone a friend and get Curtis on the line here. But I will bet that just thinking of these broadcasters as institutions, institutions tend to be quite defensive, right? They have bureaucracies built up around certain products that they have, right? One product is late night. I don't know how many people work for Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel.

Yeah, this is where it'd probably be useful to phone a friend and get Curtis on the line here. But I will bet that just thinking of these broadcasters as institutions, institutions tend to be quite defensive, right? They have bureaucracies built up around certain products that they have, right? One product is late night. I don't know how many people work for Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel.

Yeah, this is where it'd probably be useful to phone a friend and get Curtis on the line here. But I will bet that just thinking of these broadcasters as institutions, institutions tend to be quite defensive, right? They have bureaucracies built up around certain products that they have, right? One product is late night. I don't know how many people work for Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel.

It's probably, is it hundreds? Yeah, it's over 200. It's certainly over 200. Yeah. you're not just gonna lay 200 people off, especially when you have a cultural footprint that's thriving, as you said, on YouTube. It's a loss for you emotionally.

It's probably, is it hundreds? Yeah, it's over 200. It's certainly over 200. Yeah. you're not just gonna lay 200 people off, especially when you have a cultural footprint that's thriving, as you said, on YouTube. It's a loss for you emotionally.