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Derek Thompson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
8270 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

with billionaires.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

It happens with CEOs.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

It happens with any outgroup.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

It can happen with other ethnicities.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Sometimes when we're trying to describe an outgroup, we describe them as a homogeneous thing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And then the more you learn about that outgroup, the more you realize how much heterogeneity exists inside of it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

So it's one thing to easily say, billionaires want X, tech CEOs want X.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

But if you know Sam Altman and Dario Amadei, if you know their history, if you know that Dario Amadei left OpenAI in order to start Anthropic, if you know that they hate each other to the extent that there was recently a photo op on a stage in India of AI CEOs sort of holding each other's hands, and Sam and Dario were right next to each other, and their hands were just up like this, not making contact with each other.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

These are really, really different people.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And I do think they want different things.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Does Sam like to be touched?

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I'm not going to do a whole Zapruder film thing on like exactly who is touching Sam.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I think the bottom line here is that in trying to describe like what do the artificial intelligence architects want from this technology, I think it's hard to say for a couple of reasons.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

One, some of them deliberately started their companies in opposition to companies that existed.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

They want to make money.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

They want to make money and they feel like Donald Trump is a counterparty that they can negotiate with.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And the Biden administration was a group of people they couldn't negotiate with.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I think that's as parsimonious an answer as I can possibly give.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I don't think that the entire tech right necessarily feels like Donald Trump really is as great as they let on.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I think that in private conversations that, you know, are not being, you know, live tweeted.