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Derek Thompson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
8270 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Warner Brothers' discovery is a distressed property, is that it's an old school legacy player in a world that's being completely transformed by streaming and TikTok.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I mean, just two statistics, give people a sense of just how, in what trouble the movie industry is in.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Number one, in the long picture,

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Americans used to buy 35 movie tickets a year in the 1940s.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Now we buy 2.5, 2.7 movie tickets a year.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

That's an enormous decline.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

But that change is not just over, say, 80 years.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Just since the pandemic, I think Morgan Stanley...

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

J.P.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Morgan recently did this analysis where they looked at different businesses in terms of their recovery since the pandemic.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And so they showed that restaurant sales were up like 20 percent and cruises were up and hotel revenue is up like 20 percent since the pandemic.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And you go all the way down to movie tickets bought.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

and it's down 40 to 50% since the pandemic.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I mean, the movie industry is never coming back.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Films sold about 1.2, 1.6 billion movie tickets a year every year of the 21st century before 2020.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

At this rate, at current trajectory, Americans will never buy 1 billion movie tickets ever again, ever again.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

The movie industry will never get back to 2019.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And in that context,

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

You're dealing with companies that just aren't built for the next 5, 10, certainly 20 years.