Derek Thompson

I mean, if indeed Politico succeeded in part because of its co-evolution with the smartphone, with social media, if CBS thrived because of its co-creation with the radio and television technology, we can go back and do this for a lot of companies that succeed and still exist precisely because they struck when a certain technology was having its hockey stick moment.

What kind of a media company strikes you as being...

apt for the AI native world?

Like what is the kind of media company that you could almost say couldn't exist or couldn't thrive in a pre-AI world, but you think could and might thrive if indeed this is something that, as you say, is the next electricity?

One way that I think I'd synthesize that answer is that there's going to be some ways that companies are going to succeed in the next 10 years by leaning into AI and doing more with AI.

But there's also going to be, I think, media businesses that succeed because in ways they lean away from it, right?

Yeah.

Like why are, why might events succeed

be so special in a world with abundant artificial intelligence?

Well, because individuals are not AI.

And so, you know, what is abundant sometimes becomes less valuable.

What is scarce sometimes becomes more valuable.

Individuals are scarce.

Humor might be scarce, like true personal connection.

both through a phone, maybe through a device, but also in the real world, that might be scarce too.

And so maybe there's companies that will thrive, especially in this coming age, because they lean away from the technology and not into it.

I think that's a possibility too.

That's smart.

Jim VandeHei, thank you very much.

I appreciate it.