Derek Thompson

And so one thing that I'm afraid of is not just that these people who are cheating are going to lose out to the Chinese or whatever, the Finnish or the Danes, maybe they are, maybe they aren't.

They're going to lose out to people who can think, who are doing the work, who can sit with ideas, who do have and are building cognitive time and attention.

And so I just think that a world in which you have a generation of people

with extraordinary expectations of material success, but underdeveloped abilities to actually achieve that success, that just seems like you're setting up a generation for unbelievable disappointment, anxiety, and depression.

So, you know, this goes, I think, not just to, you know, the concept of national greatness, U.S.

versus China, although maybe it touches on that.

It goes to, like, you know, what do we want from our life?

Like, what do people who want to be rich and successful, what should they want from their life?

They should want the ability to...

The ability to sit with discomfort, to work hard, to enjoy complicated problems, to love thinking through them because that's where your money is made.

If you lose that, you really lose out on this ability to achieve what is the new American dream.

I don't consider myself a Luddite, and I think I'm probably more positive about large language models as a technology than Cal.

I want to be very clear about what it is that I think is bad.

And I think here, Cal and I don't have intersecting Venn diagrams.

I think here it's the same Venn diagram.

What I think is bad is not artificial intelligence.

What I think is bad is using artificial intelligence

to do the thinking for you and then representing your thinking as just the synthetic information that you got from artificial intelligence when you prompted it.

That is what is cheating.

That is definitionally cheating.