Derek Thompson

Well, yeah, first on whether it was people pulling out of voting entirely versus being persuaded, the numbers are still coming in. But just looking at Wikipedia right now, Trump received 74 million votes in 2020. He received 77 million votes in 2024. Harris received 75 million votes in 2024 versus Biden's 81 million.

Well, yeah, first on whether it was people pulling out of voting entirely versus being persuaded, the numbers are still coming in. But just looking at Wikipedia right now, Trump received 74 million votes in 2020. He received 77 million votes in 2024. Harris received 75 million votes in 2024 versus Biden's 81 million.

We're going to end up very, very close to where we were in terms of total votes cast. So I'm not... as persuaded by the idea that this was about people not voting for Harris, I frankly think there were a lot of people who voted for Joe Biden, who then voted for Donald Trump. And we should be curious then why that happened.

We're going to end up very, very close to where we were in terms of total votes cast. So I'm not... as persuaded by the idea that this was about people not voting for Harris, I frankly think there were a lot of people who voted for Joe Biden, who then voted for Donald Trump. And we should be curious then why that happened.

We're going to end up very, very close to where we were in terms of total votes cast. So I'm not... as persuaded by the idea that this was about people not voting for Harris, I frankly think there were a lot of people who voted for Joe Biden, who then voted for Donald Trump. And we should be curious then why that happened.

And this clearly, I think, especially happened among people who lived, who are Hispanic, number one. And the swings among metro areas was absolutely extraordinary. I mean, just reading from the reporting that I did, this was back in November, excuse me, In the New York metro area alone, Manhattan shifted nine points right. Brooklyn shifted 12 points right. Queens shifted 21 points right.

And this clearly, I think, especially happened among people who lived, who are Hispanic, number one. And the swings among metro areas was absolutely extraordinary. I mean, just reading from the reporting that I did, this was back in November, excuse me, In the New York metro area alone, Manhattan shifted nine points right. Brooklyn shifted 12 points right. Queens shifted 21 points right.

And this clearly, I think, especially happened among people who lived, who are Hispanic, number one. And the swings among metro areas was absolutely extraordinary. I mean, just reading from the reporting that I did, this was back in November, excuse me, In the New York metro area alone, Manhattan shifted nine points right. Brooklyn shifted 12 points right. Queens shifted 21 points right.

The Bronx shifted 22 points right. In Florida, Orlando, and Miami, and Houston, and San Antonio, and Dallas, all these places shifted about 10 points to the right. So did Wayne County, Detroit, Cook County, Chicago, all of them about 10 points to the right. This is not a 10-point shift. is not just about Biden folks sitting out. This is about people who wanted to vote for Donald Trump showing up.

The Bronx shifted 22 points right. In Florida, Orlando, and Miami, and Houston, and San Antonio, and Dallas, all these places shifted about 10 points to the right. So did Wayne County, Detroit, Cook County, Chicago, all of them about 10 points to the right. This is not a 10-point shift. is not just about Biden folks sitting out. This is about people who wanted to vote for Donald Trump showing up.

The Bronx shifted 22 points right. In Florida, Orlando, and Miami, and Houston, and San Antonio, and Dallas, all these places shifted about 10 points to the right. So did Wayne County, Detroit, Cook County, Chicago, all of them about 10 points to the right. This is not a 10-point shift. is not just about Biden folks sitting out. This is about people who wanted to vote for Donald Trump showing up.

And I think people on the left and liberals need to look at liberal governance in liberal states and blue states and in blue cities to ask the question, Why in the states that we run and in the cities that we run, did Donald Trump move the electorate double digit percentage points to the right? That's a big, big question.

And I think people on the left and liberals need to look at liberal governance in liberal states and blue states and in blue cities to ask the question, Why in the states that we run and in the cities that we run, did Donald Trump move the electorate double digit percentage points to the right? That's a big, big question.

And I think people on the left and liberals need to look at liberal governance in liberal states and blue states and in blue cities to ask the question, Why in the states that we run and in the cities that we run, did Donald Trump move the electorate double digit percentage points to the right? That's a big, big question.

Yeah, and the truth is, I don't know exactly how to bake and slice the blame pie right now. I think that we're in a moment.

Yeah, and the truth is, I don't know exactly how to bake and slice the blame pie right now. I think that we're in a moment.

Yeah, and the truth is, I don't know exactly how to bake and slice the blame pie right now. I think that we're in a moment.

I just mean as a product. I take that. Look, the pie will have to be baked and sliced. I mean, if these are policy errors, then we should know what they are so that we don't make them again. Like, the Western U.S. is not going to turn into Brazil in the next 10 years, right? This is no forthcoming rainforest. It's going to get drier and drier and hotter and hotter.

I just mean as a product. I take that. Look, the pie will have to be baked and sliced. I mean, if these are policy errors, then we should know what they are so that we don't make them again. Like, the Western U.S. is not going to turn into Brazil in the next 10 years, right? This is no forthcoming rainforest. It's going to get drier and drier and hotter and hotter.

I just mean as a product. I take that. Look, the pie will have to be baked and sliced. I mean, if these are policy errors, then we should know what they are so that we don't make them again. Like, the Western U.S. is not going to turn into Brazil in the next 10 years, right? This is no forthcoming rainforest. It's going to get drier and drier and hotter and hotter.