Derek Thompson

being objectively the most popular. Donald Trump, who ran against the Republican Party.

Let's have someone give it a shot. I don't know that it's going to work. I don't consider myself like some part-time political consultant. But like I said before, I do think that the Biden-Harris model fell into a trap of finding itself in defense of a status quo that they knew to be unpopular. And that's a terrible position to be in.

Let's have someone give it a shot. I don't know that it's going to work. I don't consider myself like some part-time political consultant. But like I said before, I do think that the Biden-Harris model fell into a trap of finding itself in defense of a status quo that they knew to be unpopular. And that's a terrible position to be in.

You've wiggled your way into the one corner that you know won't be majoritarian popular because people are upset at the system.

You've wiggled your way into the one corner that you know won't be majoritarian popular because people are upset at the system.

Right.

Right.

Jared Polis in Colorado, Josh Shapiro certainly in Pennsylvania. Shapiro, in particular, not only features in a chapter for his work on I-95, repairing the I-95 bridge that fell down. Project should have taken 12 to 24 months under normal conditions because of the emergency declaration that he announced. It was instead rebuilt in 12 days.

Jared Polis in Colorado, Josh Shapiro certainly in Pennsylvania. Shapiro, in particular, not only features in a chapter for his work on I-95, repairing the I-95 bridge that fell down. Project should have taken 12 to 24 months under normal conditions because of the emergency declaration that he announced. It was instead rebuilt in 12 days.

Great example of the kind of abundance liberalism that we're pointing to, the kind of get shit done liberalism that we're advancing. I've seen in the last few weeks he's sent a bunch of tweets that are all about essentially making government work faster, reducing permitting times.

Great example of the kind of abundance liberalism that we're pointing to, the kind of get shit done liberalism that we're advancing. I've seen in the last few weeks he's sent a bunch of tweets that are all about essentially making government work faster, reducing permitting times.

I mean, I think in many ways the policies that he's announced just in the last week since the book came out are policies that you could absolutely tie in a bow and label abundance-pilled, not to suggest that he's only doing them because the book came out, of course. So I think there are great examples there. Westmore has been interested here.

I mean, I think in many ways the policies that he's announced just in the last week since the book came out are policies that you could absolutely tie in a bow and label abundance-pilled, not to suggest that he's only doing them because the book came out, of course. So I think there are great examples there. Westmore has been interested here.

Westmore, Richie Torres, the representative from New York, in response to- Jake Auchincloss. Jake Auchincloss, who we've both spoken to. He's been on Ezra's show. Richie Torres, in response to Ezra's colleague asking, where's the Project 2029 of the Democratic Party, just tweeted the cover of this book, which is, A, I guess, wonderful advertising that we certainly did not ask him to do, but B-

Westmore, Richie Torres, the representative from New York, in response to- Jake Auchincloss. Jake Auchincloss, who we've both spoken to. He's been on Ezra's show. Richie Torres, in response to Ezra's colleague asking, where's the Project 2029 of the Democratic Party, just tweeted the cover of this book, which is, A, I guess, wonderful advertising that we certainly did not ask him to do, but B-

a great example of someone representing that the ideas of this book are central to his idea of the future of the Democratic Party. So I think that the early nominees abound, and right now they're mostly at the governor and representative level, but I think it's growing. I think people are picking up. In an interesting way, there are some politicians

a great example of someone representing that the ideas of this book are central to his idea of the future of the Democratic Party. So I think that the early nominees abound, and right now they're mostly at the governor and representative level, but I think it's growing. I think people are picking up. In an interesting way, there are some politicians

who have read this book in a clearer way than some of the critics, which is to say that we ask people very explicitly in the conclusion to see this book not as a list of the perfect policies to work everywhere, but rather as a lens that someone in San Francisco can look through that lens and see the right policies to increase housing production in San Francisco.

who have read this book in a clearer way than some of the critics, which is to say that we ask people very explicitly in the conclusion to see this book not as a list of the perfect policies to work everywhere, but rather as a lens that someone in San Francisco can look through that lens and see the right policies to increase housing production in San Francisco.

And then someone in Georgia can look through that lens and see the right policies to increase clean battery manufacturing in Georgia. And someone can look through that lens in the Commerce Department and say, next time we want to spend $40 billion in rural broadband, let's get that money out in nine months rather than not get the money out at all in four years. I see a lot of people...