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Derek Thompson

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9152 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It's a really good question.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Why am I more excited to make the point that I seem more excited to make?

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Um...

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

You know that feeling when you're in a room and everyone around you is freaking out about something?

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And in a weird way, that calms you down because you're like, oh, everyone's freaked out about this thing, so I don't need to add my anxiety to the median level of anxiety in this room.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

That's kind of how I feel about certain aspects of fearing the influence of corporate power in monopolies and energy and entertainment.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I see it's being covered.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I see people writing about it.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I see people getting agitated about it.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I think it's good that the government is winning lawsuits against entertainment companies that are abusing their own power to raise ticket prices.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I think it's good.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

But that's not where the debate is.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I'm excited about adding an impression that I think we introduced you and I to the conversation, which is that we are so used to seeing this

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

version of power exist at the level of corporations.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And we're so used to seeing the way that that can have pernicious impacts on consumers that we miss other instantiations of power.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And a neighborhood can in a strange way be an instantiation of power.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It doesn't seem like some nefarious thing

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

When a nice-looking woman stands up at a city council meeting and says, I would prefer to not build an apartment building behind my farm because I'm afraid of my horses being freaked out by the construction noise, but I want us to see that that is power if it stops an apartment building from being built.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

So it's always difficult, but important maybe, to respond to a question about like affect.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Maybe the first thing I should have said was I encourage people to read the transcript where my affect is invisible rather than watch this on YouTube where my affect is visible.