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Derek Thompson

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The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

There's an aversion to the technology within certain aspects of media.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Like there are magazines and newsletter writers who are against GLP-1s because they promote a new thinness culture or they might represent some kind of unnatural way of getting a normal body.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

That it accelerates us towards some kind of transhumanist future with which we feel uncomfortable.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And while enriching a small number of people.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

While enriching a small number of people.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

But I also think it's important to look at the fact that this is, by all accounts, the most popular

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

category of drug in the last 20, 30 years.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I mean, the pharmaceutical companies can't sell it fast enough.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

The peptide makers with their relationships to Chinese or whatever labs, they can't sell it fast enough.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I mean, here you have an emerging technology that looks like it might have implications for neurodegenerative disease, for inflammation, for cardiovascular disease.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

These are diseases that are among the highest mortality burden in the country, in the developed world.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Why aren't we devoting even more public resources to studying this drug faster and finding new ways of bringing down the cost in the next few years for all Americans?

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

What if the federal government spends a lot of money to promote a certain drug category,

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

reward certain companies with advanced market commitments, hundreds of millions, billions of dollars for companies that build these drugs so that the government essentially is buying those drugs and then can distribute them to the public at cost, which is exactly what we did for COVID vaccines.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And right now, the federal government just sort of seems MIA on this in a way that I'm not sure I entirely understand.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

So if I were in government looking at this revolution, I would frankly be interested in something like an Operation Warp Speed for GLP-1s.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It doesn't just seem like an abject disaster.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It is an absolute disaster.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I mean, this is what you and I were talking about a lot with audiences in May and April of last year.