Derek Thompson

But if you get one interview that goes well, if you talk to Wes Moore, let's say, and there is a five minute segment where he articulates some vision of liberalism in the 2020s that everyone says, my gosh, that is the best possible articulation of what the Democratic Party can stand for the next four years that I've ever heard.

Suddenly what's happened is that appearing on the show becomes massively de-risked. And in fact, the risk valence entirely switches. We are leaving dollars on the floor by not appearing on this guy's podcast because I'm AOC. I'm a sensational communicator. If Wes Moore can do it, I can do it even better.

Suddenly what's happened is that appearing on the show becomes massively de-risked. And in fact, the risk valence entirely switches. We are leaving dollars on the floor by not appearing on this guy's podcast because I'm AOC. I'm a sensational communicator. If Wes Moore can do it, I can do it even better.

Suddenly what's happened is that appearing on the show becomes massively de-risked. And in fact, the risk valence entirely switches. We are leaving dollars on the floor by not appearing on this guy's podcast because I'm AOC. I'm a sensational communicator. If Wes Moore can do it, I can do it even better.

And so I think to a certain extent, there's a little bit like of a riot theory phenomenon here. The person who throws the first stone in a riot has to be very courageous. The person who throws the hundredth and first stone in a riot doesn't need to be courageous at all.

And so I think to a certain extent, there's a little bit like of a riot theory phenomenon here. The person who throws the first stone in a riot has to be very courageous. The person who throws the hundredth and first stone in a riot doesn't need to be courageous at all.

And so I think to a certain extent, there's a little bit like of a riot theory phenomenon here. The person who throws the first stone in a riot has to be very courageous. The person who throws the hundredth and first stone in a riot doesn't need to be courageous at all.

And there might be a little bit of that going on that people need to see proof of high expected value before it breaks what we're acknowledging to be a bit of a communications norm on the left.

And there might be a little bit of that going on that people need to see proof of high expected value before it breaks what we're acknowledging to be a bit of a communications norm on the left.

And there might be a little bit of that going on that people need to see proof of high expected value before it breaks what we're acknowledging to be a bit of a communications norm on the left.

It's about having something to say. We wanted to talk to you and talk together about how much we wanted to talk to you. Because we got something to say. We wrote a 300-page book about how much we have to say. We love going on podcasts and television shows and radio and then doing live events to tell people what we have to say.

It's about having something to say. We wanted to talk to you and talk together about how much we wanted to talk to you. Because we got something to say. We wrote a 300-page book about how much we have to say. We love going on podcasts and television shows and radio and then doing live events to tell people what we have to say.

It's about having something to say. We wanted to talk to you and talk together about how much we wanted to talk to you. Because we got something to say. We wrote a 300-page book about how much we have to say. We love going on podcasts and television shows and radio and then doing live events to tell people what we have to say.

We think this idea of abundance isn't just important for redefining what the American left means. We think that the outcome of thinking abundantly about housing and energy and science and technology is what politics is all about. It's about giving people the good life, and we think this is the path toward it.

We think this idea of abundance isn't just important for redefining what the American left means. We think that the outcome of thinking abundantly about housing and energy and science and technology is what politics is all about. It's about giving people the good life, and we think this is the path toward it.

We think this idea of abundance isn't just important for redefining what the American left means. We think that the outcome of thinking abundantly about housing and energy and science and technology is what politics is all about. It's about giving people the good life, and we think this is the path toward it.

So certainly one thing that's profoundly motivated us is having something very concrete that we just want to get out there in the world. My sense as a writer, as a thinker, is I want my software running on as many pieces of hardware as possible. I want to get my ideas out there as much as possible and who gets credit for them and where the idea goes. And that's all secondary.

So certainly one thing that's profoundly motivated us is having something very concrete that we just want to get out there in the world. My sense as a writer, as a thinker, is I want my software running on as many pieces of hardware as possible. I want to get my ideas out there as much as possible and who gets credit for them and where the idea goes. And that's all secondary.

So certainly one thing that's profoundly motivated us is having something very concrete that we just want to get out there in the world. My sense as a writer, as a thinker, is I want my software running on as many pieces of hardware as possible. I want to get my ideas out there as much as possible and who gets credit for them and where the idea goes. And that's all secondary.

I believe in ideas because they're important. And so I want to talk to people who have large platforms about those ideas, because how else is the idea getting to the mainstream except through those large platforms? That's how broadcast technology works in the first place. So maybe one thing that you're touching on is a little bit of ideological ambiguity.