Derek

I'm not sure. I mean, it'll probably, I mean, it'll be like really...

I'm not sure. I mean, it'll probably, I mean, it'll be like really...

I'm not sure. I mean, it'll probably, I mean, it'll be like really...

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

You're right, it wasn't your own obsession at all. I developed a technique of seeing girls as just floating heads, you know. It's like you just learn you're just not going to look below the neck, you know, because it's like... There's only bad news there. Yeah.

You're right, it wasn't your own obsession at all. I developed a technique of seeing girls as just floating heads, you know. It's like you just learn you're just not going to look below the neck, you know, because it's like... There's only bad news there. Yeah.

It did have this funny effect on... I mean, I was a cartoonist for my college newspaper, and I didn't actually know how to draw girls, really. I mean, you can see... That's right. You can see when I would draw a female figure top to bottom in a cartoon, there's an awkwardness to it. because I didn't actually know what they looked like.

It did have this funny effect on... I mean, I was a cartoonist for my college newspaper, and I didn't actually know how to draw girls, really. I mean, you can see... That's right. You can see when I would draw a female figure top to bottom in a cartoon, there's an awkwardness to it. because I didn't actually know what they looked like.

And those kind of things are kind of, it's funny to look back and talk about them now, but it was all very dead serious back then.

And those kind of things are kind of, it's funny to look back and talk about them now, but it was all very dead serious back then.

Yeah, and there's this terrible, a real anger, a sense of unfairness at the media. Like, you know, Coors Light put up these billboards with women in swimsuits on them, and they were very well-designed swimsuits, and there they would be, right? Like right up in the sky, you know?

Yeah, and there's this terrible, a real anger, a sense of unfairness at the media. Like, you know, Coors Light put up these billboards with women in swimsuits on them, and they were very well-designed swimsuits, and there they would be, right? Like right up in the sky, you know?

And so you just felt like the devil was just absolutely this very wily opponent, and it's just in your face all the time, you know? And it's so frustrating if you're trying not to go out of your way to look for it, but then it seems like everybody's pushing it in your face.

And so you just felt like the devil was just absolutely this very wily opponent, and it's just in your face all the time, you know? And it's so frustrating if you're trying not to go out of your way to look for it, but then it seems like everybody's pushing it in your face.

You know, it's funny you should ask that because I have actually had that imaginary conversation before. You know, you see some time travel movie. Vanessa is like, wow, if I had a chance to go back, you know, what would I tell that kid? And I think I would tell myself, you know what?