Deric Cheng

And I think that the...

Answer, maybe, is that all of these are different parts of the same roadmap.

In fact, that in the very near term, in the next few years, we might need very strong responses to volatility, such as wage insurance, unemployment benefits.

Yike.

And then in our reskilling tools.

And then in the long term...

I think that it is almost inevitable that we start to need these very transformative structures for society.

Things like in the direction of UBI or global dividend or things that revamp the role of corporations and governments and how they respond.

And so...

My pitch would be that instead of having this debate about which one of these things are necessary, to recognize that these are all different portions of the same path, and that we simply are talking about different steps along a timeline towards a successful and flourishing society, and that we should just navigate it collectively by understanding what policies are most necessary at this time.

Yeah, I believe that what we can conceive of right now are the same problems and solutions that we will conceive of in decades, in that humans, we still will always want similar things.

We will want

stability in terms of our housing.

We will want a good education.

We will want strong community bonds.

We will want financial independence and security.

And so the solutions will tend to be in the same overall direction.

And what will change is really the political palatability of certain types of ideas.

For instance, just as you're talking about, the idea of a robot tax has been explored in South Korea briefly.

And