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Deric Cheng

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
403 total appearances

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Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

I think it seems relatively uncontroversial to recognize that if the economy shifts the way that it captures value 20%,

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

from labor to capital significantly that we should think about, at the very least, how to redesign our taxation mechanisms to account for that.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And the project that I'm most working on right now is kind of the idea of a progressive income tax.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Essentially, what that...

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

What that is intended to respond to is the idea that there might be unprecedented shift from labor to capital income, which could drastically shift the overall tax base.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And two, that there could be a massive increase in the concentration of profits and economic growth.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And so a progressive corporate...

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Profit tax would help to respond to that by capturing more value from the largest corporations as opposed to smaller mom and pop stores, and also capturing more relative profit from capital as opposed to labor.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Whereas right now, our labor taxes are...

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

on the orders of 20 to 40%, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

They are already progressive and they are significantly higher than capital taxation, which broadly sits roughly around 20% in the US.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And so when a lot of value, if a lot of value shifts from labor to capital, how do you make up that 20% gap?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

A progressive corporate income tax could be one step in that direction as an example.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Yeah, this is speaking to a really broad and persistent problem with global taxation.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And this is essentially the issues with tax havens, with the race to the bottom with corporate taxation that has been going on for the past 20 years.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

When you've heard about stories such as Apple paying $0 in corporate profit taxes, probably about a decade ago, it's changed since then.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

It's related to all of that.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And I would say the most promising structure and solution has to do with

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

The OECD, which has proposed a thing called the BEPS 2.0, base erosion profit shifting, which essentially allows for global tax coordination across a wide, almost every country involved in the taxation of multinational enterprises such as Google and Apple.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

It is currently somewhat stalled, but I do believe that it seems to be the most reasonable and practical solution that will help to avoid this race to the bottom that we've seen over the past two decades.