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Deric Cheng

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
403 total appearances

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Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

you might see maybe three or four major companies, or maybe even just one or two in each industry dominating industries that used to be employing millions of people, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

So if you have Waymo and maybe two or three other competitors, these might eventually replace a lot of millions of human drivers, for example, over the course of a decade or so.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And so the real concern that we have at the AGI social contract is really about

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

disempowerment of human labor.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

We're really worried that if we lose labor's ability to have leverage in the marketplace, we lose their ability to advocate for stronger wages, to have a say in the direction of our economy, then we lose a lot of beneficial aspects of how our society is currently set up.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

in terms of maintaining agency, maintaining bargaining power for humans, and then in the long term, in the grand scheme of things, really trying to improve human economic outcomes, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

So we're hoping that the strategies that we take in the next decade or so work towards empowering humans and empowering particularly human labor to still be relevant when a lot of value starts shifting from labor to capital.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Yeah, it's a great question.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And frankly, I don't think that there is any way to know.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

There's a lot of debate among economists and people working in this space about what will happen down the line.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

But I think it is very clear that the major AI companies are

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

have all expressed that their focus is to move towards full automation, that they are building tools and that they have the express interest in developing these tools to the degree that they can fully replace human workers.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

It might not be explicit in the mantras of all of these companies in terms of what they're saying, but it is underlying in their quest for AGI.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And I personally don't see concrete or solid reasons that they wouldn't be able to get there in the next decade.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

I think it's very, very possible.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And as a result, at the very least, we should be trying to prepare for that outcome in the case that it does happen.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Yeah, I think the best analogy would be to compare the major corporations of decades ago to the major corporations now and to maybe what we envision major corporations will look like in the future.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Decades ago, the largest corporations had hundreds of thousands, millions of people working for them.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

It took a lot of manual labor.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

It took a lot of people up and down the entire stack of industry in order to keep these corporations working.