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Deric Cheng

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
403 total appearances

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Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

For instance,

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Like being a peer party planner does not pay very well.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

I actually worked in events and I ran a festival for six years and I can speak very deeply to how the better the event you run, the less financially profitable it is.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And similarly with artists, musicians, writers, painters, people who are really pursuing the paths that I think bring them a lot of meaning and that they have found to be

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

create direction in their lives, oftentimes make significant sacrifices when it comes to finances because the economic incentives are not there.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And it's not necessarily clear that AI itself will change those economic incentives.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

I don't think we'll have 10x or 100x demand for music.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

I think we're all listening to music approximately as much as we would like to listen to music at this time, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And so it gets...

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Complicated and hard to imagine exactly how all of these desirable jobs will be created from this AI boom unless we restructure how we think about society and how we think about government policies to protect human labor.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Of course.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

I think that as long as corporations are run by people, that there will be people at the top, and that for those people at the top to function very well, they will have to have support to understand or to engage deeply with powerful AI agents, even in these superstar firms in which AI agents are performing a majority of the tasks in these

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

futuristic societies.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

For example, in order to build a good software product, you still have to have a very deep understanding of the architecture of the software product, of when it breaks down, what needs to be done.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

You have to be able to integrate feedback from human consumers, customers.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

and turn that into a product that is well-structured, that can respond appropriately to their needs, and then to communicate all of that up to the CEO who is trying to build a good product and thinking about the high-level strategy.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

And so in those ways, even if

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

You can see a lot of the grunt work automated for software development with tests or even with writing code.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

It's still very clear that there is a role for humans as long as corporations are human driven in order to engage with external parties, engage with customers, engage with people up the stack, and to basically provide kind of a conduit between very, very smart AI systems and the people who work within the company.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
How to Rebuild the Social Contract After AGI (with Deric Cheng)

Yeah, I think maybe I see two categories of very resistant jobs to TAI related to interpersonal specialists.