Dermot Bannon

Yes.

Or a hug or whatever.

Yeah.

All the attention.

Yeah, and just to get to know them through their house.

Like they are... I have been... I've been talking about this for the last couple of weeks.

Like the difference between this and say, I don't know...

keys to your life keys to your life you know the ones where people go in and they go into other people's homes they do have to it does have to be a super space so it like everybody has made a big effort like and and they've done something unusual or they've got a really cool space so it's not just a house if you know what i mean they've all and it doesn't have to be big it doesn't have to be expensive they're not flash but they've all done something really cool and then my kind of

My angle on this is to try and through their design and what they've done is understand a little bit more about them.

And because this is what I love.

I love going into people's houses and I don't actually judge whether it's good, bad or indifferent.

I judge what I see and like the little clues that give me, oh, my God, you're like that.

Or like I love reading, you know, when you go into someone's house, the bookshelves, I'll go to the bookshelves, I'll go to their cupboards and see what they cook with.

They probably do.

I go into people's houses and they're always spotless.

And I just think, God, these people are really clean and we're really messy at home.

And it's probably that it's done because I'm on my way.

Yeah.

But it's to try and get a sense of them through their design choices and what they've done.

Like say this weekend, we've got Joanne McNally and like what was really lovely about her, the chat, you see, I'm trying to get into a chat that's not, everybody's lives are all over Instagram and they're all over social media.