Dervla

The ethic of care in the hospital was fantastic.

And I do not believe for a single moment that the midwives, that the doctors, that the consultants who work at the hospital would come out and say that we will provide a different level of safety to different patients in accordance with whether they can pay or not.

You know, this is really...

fundamental to the nature of care, to the nature of medicine, but also to the nature of a democracy.

It's absolutely fundamental that women should have choice.

And actually, by the way, there are choices.

There's midwife-led services.

There's services where you can share the care between the GP and the hospital.

You know, there is a range of services.

Maybe there should be more choice.

Well, first of all, you don't.

It does exist.

There are still, in the Rotunda and in many other hospitals, private-only consultants, right, who have not signed the contract.

But over time, it will disappear.

Yeah, but this is absurd.

This is absurd.

You know, I mean, you know, if consultants believe...

that it is vitally important for the safety of women that they continue to provide private only care, then they can do that.

You know, nobody is stopping them.

It's a free country.