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It doesn't have to just be because Smith has done oral arguments in response to a lot of the claims by Trump's lawyers. This was one of them. The infinite civil and criminal immunity was another one of them where he cites past cases where these types of things, because I think it was to defraud of civil rights, I think was the fourth charge.
It doesn't have to just be because Smith has done oral arguments in response to a lot of the claims by Trump's lawyers. This was one of them. The infinite civil and criminal immunity was another one of them where he cites past cases where these types of things, because I think it was to defraud of civil rights, I think was the fourth charge.
Sure. Although I don't like that when we say specious legal theory and novel application, which I do agree some of these in some ways is novel. I don't think we've ever also had a president try to do this before. It is a novel situation where somebody has resisted the peaceful transfer of power this clearly in so many different ways.
Sure. Although I don't like that when we say specious legal theory and novel application, which I do agree some of these in some ways is novel. I don't think we've ever also had a president try to do this before. It is a novel situation where somebody has resisted the peaceful transfer of power this clearly in so many different ways.
Sure. Although I don't like that when we say specious legal theory and novel application, which I do agree some of these in some ways is novel. I don't think we've ever also had a president try to do this before. It is a novel situation where somebody has resisted the peaceful transfer of power this clearly in so many different ways.
Gore wasn't trying to decertify the vote, though, for states. Right. They challenged their thing to the Supreme Court. They lost their case in the Supreme Court and then power transfer happened.
Gore wasn't trying to decertify the vote, though, for states. Right. They challenged their thing to the Supreme Court. They lost their case in the Supreme Court and then power transfer happened.
Gore wasn't trying to decertify the vote, though, for states. Right. They challenged their thing to the Supreme Court. They lost their case in the Supreme Court and then power transfer happened.
Yeah, but the Eastman theory of what Pence could do in Congress is a far cry away. A truly shitty theory. I mean, make no mistake. But not just shitty. I think that if any Democrat had done this, I feel like we'd be looking at it in a far different lens.
Yeah, but the Eastman theory of what Pence could do in Congress is a far cry away. A truly shitty theory. I mean, make no mistake. But not just shitty. I think that if any Democrat had done this, I feel like we'd be looking at it in a far different lens.
Yeah, but the Eastman theory of what Pence could do in Congress is a far cry away. A truly shitty theory. I mean, make no mistake. But not just shitty. I think that if any Democrat had done this, I feel like we'd be looking at it in a far different lens.
As in we would be using terms like attempted coup, subversion of peaceful transfer of power if a Democrat vice president had tried to essentially say that in Congress they could throw away the vote.
As in we would be using terms like attempted coup, subversion of peaceful transfer of power if a Democrat vice president had tried to essentially say that in Congress they could throw away the vote.
As in we would be using terms like attempted coup, subversion of peaceful transfer of power if a Democrat vice president had tried to essentially say that in Congress they could throw away the vote.
We can dump the legal stuff, actually.
We can dump the legal stuff, actually.
We can dump the legal stuff, actually.
Because like you said, Jack Smith, nobody's charging with incitement. And I don't believe insurrection is a part of that. So we're dumping legal. Just in terms of like a president that is trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. So whether you call that a bloodless coup or a coup or whatever contemporaneous term you want to use.
Because like you said, Jack Smith, nobody's charging with incitement. And I don't believe insurrection is a part of that. So we're dumping legal. Just in terms of like a president that is trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. So whether you call that a bloodless coup or a coup or whatever contemporaneous term you want to use.
Because like you said, Jack Smith, nobody's charging with incitement. And I don't believe insurrection is a part of that. So we're dumping legal. Just in terms of like a president that is trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. So whether you call that a bloodless coup or a coup or whatever contemporaneous term you want to use.