Detective Ed Murray

One of the agents grabbed Santee, took her bag. I saw there were like five agents struggling with Kenneth. Couldn't take him down. Couldn't take him down.

When Stanley arrived, he was wearing a bulletproof vest. Okay. Was he spooked? He was scared. He did tell me that he was afraid of Kenny and Santi and that they're there to kill him.

There was a lot of pedestrian traffic going on. And, you know, it kind of helped during our surveillance of the hotel. How'd they show up? Well, we waited about eight hours.

We're standing in the lobby of the hotel, and we're trying to come up with a plan. Yeah. And all of a sudden, I hear this screeching woman yell out, Stanley!

And she comes over to Stanley. She embraces Stanley.

One of the agents grabbed Sante, took her bag. I saw there were like five agents struggling with Kenneth.

Couldn't take him down. And then we got him down. I searched Kenneth, and he had a set of brass knuckles. He had a knife on him. As we were struggling with him, he urinated in his pants, wet his pants.

What was in the bag was a lot of cash. I said to my partner, and Santee is in the backseat of the car, I say, there's got to be about $10,000 in cash in here. Santee responds now. She responds, oh, well, you can't come to Manhattan on vacation without less than $10,000.

They had in their possession identification belonging to Irene Silverman.

Kenny and Santee, they knew what they were going to do, sadly, with Irene Silverman. They were going to use Stanley Patterson as a person that was supposed to maintain the building that Irene Silverman owned.

Let's just say with reference to Ms. Silverman, they deny categorically all the charges.

Sinister. Scheming.

No doubt in my mind, that was him.

I see that picture, and it's exactly a composite sketch of Kenny Kimes.

It was something that I just didn't think it was like mother and son.

Well, she was. She definitely, without a doubt, she was.