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Deviant Ollam

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410 total appearances

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Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

And some of that is spoken to in terms of the client's willingness to have a more involved job. I mean, labor is cost, right? So time is money, and they provisioned, they said, no, they were really serious about, they're targeted by foreign adversaries. They are targeted by real threat actors at that point. And an actual threat actor would not think twice about

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

And some of that is spoken to in terms of the client's willingness to have a more involved job. I mean, labor is cost, right? So time is money, and they provisioned, they said, no, they were really serious about, they're targeted by foreign adversaries. They are targeted by real threat actors at that point. And an actual threat actor would not think twice about

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

spending an entire night just in, belly down in the dirt with long range glass, learning which employees go through which doors at which times and when the security patrols come around and when they don't.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

spending an entire night just in, belly down in the dirt with long range glass, learning which employees go through which doors at which times and when the security patrols come around and when they don't.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

He's like, yeah, yeah, you spotted the spotter. Cool, yeah. We have it pretty masked, but you must be, he's like, you must have been really close. I was like, yeah, we were right up against that fence line. He's like, okay, yeah, you know, you got it. You got it. Don't approach from the west side. You spotted that one.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

He's like, yeah, yeah, you spotted the spotter. Cool, yeah. We have it pretty masked, but you must be, he's like, you must have been really close. I was like, yeah, we were right up against that fence line. He's like, okay, yeah, you know, you got it. You got it. Don't approach from the west side. You spotted that one.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

Because again, let's say you're the Chinese government and you got a guy laying in the dirt, crawling up to a fence line, and then this guy takes some pictures and you say, well, look at those technology. Are they using, oh, oh, that's RF. They're using spotter RF. It's a way of looking for motion sensing in a field.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

Because again, let's say you're the Chinese government and you got a guy laying in the dirt, crawling up to a fence line, and then this guy takes some pictures and you say, well, look at those technology. Are they using, oh, oh, that's RF. They're using spotter RF. It's a way of looking for motion sensing in a field.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

And if it's the Chinese government, they would then back off and they would say, okay, let's spend another two weeks figuring out who sold it to them. Let's figure out which version they have, what its coverage is. Whereas for us, we just signal message. We said, hey, I found this. Is this what I'm seeing? They say, no, yeah, yeah.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

And if it's the Chinese government, they would then back off and they would say, okay, let's spend another two weeks figuring out who sold it to them. Let's figure out which version they have, what its coverage is. Whereas for us, we just signal message. We said, hey, I found this. Is this what I'm seeing? They say, no, yeah, yeah.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

We're not going to make you charge us another week's worth of effort to go get a sample unit, you know, and set it up in a lab and figure out the exact distance and range that it covers. It doesn't match the manufacturer spec. So it's a week of that. It's a week of getting close, taking pictures, coming back to the Airbnb, analyzing. Who's this guard? Is this mobile too?

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

We're not going to make you charge us another week's worth of effort to go get a sample unit, you know, and set it up in a lab and figure out the exact distance and range that it covers. It doesn't match the manufacturer spec. So it's a week of that. It's a week of getting close, taking pictures, coming back to the Airbnb, analyzing. Who's this guard? Is this mobile too?

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

No, he was, well, he was on foot yesterday. No, the guy on foot was in a, okay, no, this is the guy in the truck. Let's make a name for him. You make up names. It's like a pinboard, like out of a detective show, right? You got a wall of people. And one really great photo of a guard looking at us through these binoculars. Yeah, that guy, we printed that photo out a lot, put it around the Airbnb.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

No, he was, well, he was on foot yesterday. No, the guy on foot was in a, okay, no, this is the guy in the truck. Let's make a name for him. You make up names. It's like a pinboard, like out of a detective show, right? You got a wall of people. And one really great photo of a guard looking at us through these binoculars. Yeah, that guy, we printed that photo out a lot, put it around the Airbnb.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

So some of those guards are really switched on. Well, because he couldn't see us, but he saw something and he was like, what's that? And Rob and Drew just stood stock still in the dirt in their ghillie suits for like an hour.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

So some of those guards are really switched on. Well, because he couldn't see us, but he saw something and he was like, what's that? And Rob and Drew just stood stock still in the dirt in their ghillie suits for like an hour.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

The work involved in setting up a fake profile is non-trivial. It's really hard to create like a fake LinkedIn or a fake anything these days that looks legit. I mean, you need to have history there. You need to have connections. It's like planting crops. You have to create these profiles and then you water them.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

The work involved in setting up a fake profile is non-trivial. It's really hard to create like a fake LinkedIn or a fake anything these days that looks legit. I mean, you need to have history there. You need to have connections. It's like planting crops. You have to create these profiles and then you water them.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

You come back and you connect and you make posts and you connect to this people and you endorse that person. Months and years later, these are now fully formed and you can maybe use one of them on a job to connect to other people. But if you get burned, well, that's all right. There's a year and a half of work that that profile is roasted. Yeah.

Darknet Diaries
134: Deviant

You come back and you connect and you make posts and you connect to this people and you endorse that person. Months and years later, these are now fully formed and you can maybe use one of them on a job to connect to other people. But if you get burned, well, that's all right. There's a year and a half of work that that profile is roasted. Yeah.