Dex Hunter-Torricke

The work he did on its own of gutting USAID through Doge, which we have emphatic reporting about the lives that have been lost, the children who have died.

It's been devastating, yeah.

He should not ever be rehabilitated.

That is a guy who should be on trial.

That's right.

So that's the thing, right?

Space and space technology could just be brilliant.

And if we just looked at that, if we just had a tunnel vision, we had a navel gazing on that, fantastic.

But when your boss is out there gutting aid agencies and children are dying, the two things are connected.

I'm very focused now on the societal implications of AI.

I spent the last several years, I was back at Google and a lot of the last 15 years have been involved in AI and the technology and how quickly it is gathering steam, how much more advanced it's getting, how much more advanced it will be in the next decade.

That is something which is going to be wildly more devastating than any of the consequences of the mismanaged technologies of the last 15 years.

And the consequences will crash land on societies all over the world.

We are not prepared for these things at all, economically, societally, geopolitically, environmentally.

And that's the agenda that I'm really focused on, the tech industry.

has massively distorted the agenda for how to manage these things.

We talk about AI governance, and there's a whole bunch of stuff which is about how you manage the AI systems themselves.

That's like 1% of the problem.

15 years from now, probably less than 15 years, when a lot of people have lost their jobs to AI,

and we have no economic solutions, we have no idea how to give people a good quality of life, that is a much, much bigger problem than some of the technical issues we're facing in those systems.