Dex Hunter-Torricke

The debate has not shifted there yet because I think a lot of people don't understand the scale of what might happen, the speed at which this will unfold, and how interconnected all these agendas are.

When people really do understand that the technologies that might give you your amazing apps on your phone also might be things that destroy the prospect of your kids having future jobs and also will threaten natural ecosystems, then it becomes very different.

I think before you can get really granular about lots of tactics, you really need to have won on the idea.

Like, does anyone think Donald Trump is the president because of his exceptional ability to run a disciplined campaign?

Like...

he had an idea and it was an idea fit for a moment and poised to disrupt a whole bunch of bad incumbent ideas.

His answer was another set of bad ideas, some really, truly evil and villainous ideas, but he had ideas.

And what is happening now is that

in the absence of any vision of what our future could be, we're just staggering on, trying to prop up the things that are not working, the remnants of these old economic, political, geopolitical systems, the shreds of the international order built in the 1940s.

No one is truly saying,

This isn't working.

What could something that actually works look like?

And don't focus on what's politically achievable.

Focus on what do you actually want to build?

If you could get away with it, what's the real best case scenario?

And I think you have to start there because if you do that, the world isn't static.

The moment you have leaders with vision, you can change reality around you in enormous ways.

Donald Trump is the guy who was hosting The Apprentice, and now he's the most powerful man in the world.

Mm-hmm.

The moment you have a vision, you can start to really move things in ways that may seem utterly implausible.