Diana Pasulka
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He said, I think I should show my ID. Now, I didn't really want anybody at the Vatican to know that I was there with someone who's a space researcher because I didn't want them to know that we were looking for anything that had to do with UFOs because in the one sense, I wasn't. But in the other sense, I just wanted the best impression. when I got there. So I didn't want him to do that.
And I honestly didn't think it would work. Okay. So I didn't think he'd be able to get in. But after like an hour or two, I'm on the plane. I feel bad for him. And he finally says, can you please just, I'm going to do this. All right. And I said, okay, just go ahead. So one of his IDs, I don't know which one he shows to the
And I honestly didn't think it would work. Okay. So I didn't think he'd be able to get in. But after like an hour or two, I'm on the plane. I feel bad for him. And he finally says, can you please just, I'm going to do this. All right. And I said, okay, just go ahead. So one of his IDs, I don't know which one he shows to the
And I honestly didn't think it would work. Okay. So I didn't think he'd be able to get in. But after like an hour or two, I'm on the plane. I feel bad for him. And he finally says, can you please just, I'm going to do this. All right. And I said, okay, just go ahead. So one of his IDs, I don't know which one he shows to the
the guy who's the security at the secret archive and he said he dropped his wallet and he went down to pick it up and when he looked up he saw his face on the screen of the guy's computer and he was in and as soon as he got in he met a priest who was an american and we got access So that's when I, again, he changed my idea of Catholic history. He also changed my idea of the Vatican.
the guy who's the security at the secret archive and he said he dropped his wallet and he went down to pick it up and when he looked up he saw his face on the screen of the guy's computer and he was in and as soon as he got in he met a priest who was an american and we got access So that's when I, again, he changed my idea of Catholic history. He also changed my idea of the Vatican.
the guy who's the security at the secret archive and he said he dropped his wallet and he went down to pick it up and when he looked up he saw his face on the screen of the guy's computer and he was in and as soon as he got in he met a priest who was an american and we got access So that's when I, again, he changed my idea of Catholic history. He also changed my idea of the Vatican.
So when we got to the Vatican, I couldn't believe it. I was like, what, you know, how come this guy has way more access than me? How did he get that access? So it was a mystery to me. But he also pointed out a couple of things too. So there's some really, really scary guards in the Vatican itself that don't look like the Swiss guards. Like they look like militia guys.
So when we got to the Vatican, I couldn't believe it. I was like, what, you know, how come this guy has way more access than me? How did he get that access? So it was a mystery to me. But he also pointed out a couple of things too. So there's some really, really scary guards in the Vatican itself that don't look like the Swiss guards. Like they look like militia guys.
So when we got to the Vatican, I couldn't believe it. I was like, what, you know, how come this guy has way more access than me? How did he get that access? So it was a mystery to me. But he also pointed out a couple of things too. So there's some really, really scary guards in the Vatican itself that don't look like the Swiss guards. Like they look like militia guys.
They have these, like, I'm not well-versed in guns, but they look like they have like machine guns, right? Mm-hmm. And you can't go anywhere. Like I was holding on to Father Kelty who was showing us around, you know, in the Vatican and helping us out. Like if I was away from him, I was fearful of my life because these guys were mean. You know, they're like, why are you here kind of thing.
They have these, like, I'm not well-versed in guns, but they look like they have like machine guns, right? Mm-hmm. And you can't go anywhere. Like I was holding on to Father Kelty who was showing us around, you know, in the Vatican and helping us out. Like if I was away from him, I was fearful of my life because these guys were mean. You know, they're like, why are you here kind of thing.
They have these, like, I'm not well-versed in guns, but they look like they have like machine guns, right? Mm-hmm. And you can't go anywhere. Like I was holding on to Father Kelty who was showing us around, you know, in the Vatican and helping us out. Like if I was away from him, I was fearful of my life because these guys were mean. You know, they're like, why are you here kind of thing.
So Vatican has some incredible security. Also, Tyler pointed some things out to me. So we were at the Vatican observatory and in the gardens, they have a beautiful garden there, the papal gardens, in fact. And there were these gardeners. And he said, see the gardeners? And yes. And he said, are they gardening? And I looked at them and, no, they were not gardening. And what were they doing?
So Vatican has some incredible security. Also, Tyler pointed some things out to me. So we were at the Vatican observatory and in the gardens, they have a beautiful garden there, the papal gardens, in fact. And there were these gardeners. And he said, see the gardeners? And yes. And he said, are they gardening? And I looked at them and, no, they were not gardening. And what were they doing?
So Vatican has some incredible security. Also, Tyler pointed some things out to me. So we were at the Vatican observatory and in the gardens, they have a beautiful garden there, the papal gardens, in fact. And there were these gardeners. And he said, see the gardeners? And yes. And he said, are they gardening? And I looked at them and, no, they were not gardening. And what were they doing?
So he was pointing out to me the intelligence at, you know, like Secret Service type people at the Vatican. He could spot them. And when he would show them to me, it was like my eyes likeβ like I didn't see it before. To me, I just in my mind registered gardener and that was it. I didn't even bother looking at them, but no, they weren't gardening.
So he was pointing out to me the intelligence at, you know, like Secret Service type people at the Vatican. He could spot them. And when he would show them to me, it was like my eyes likeβ like I didn't see it before. To me, I just in my mind registered gardener and that was it. I didn't even bother looking at them, but no, they weren't gardening.
So he was pointing out to me the intelligence at, you know, like Secret Service type people at the Vatican. He could spot them. And when he would show them to me, it was like my eyes likeβ like I didn't see it before. To me, I just in my mind registered gardener and that was it. I didn't even bother looking at them, but no, they weren't gardening.
And if they were, they should be fired because they were bad, right? They weren't gardening. They were posing as gardeners. So that was all over. I saw that. And so I saw the Vatican in a completely different light when I was there. And we did find interesting information that basically made it into the last chapter of American Cosmic.