Diana Pasulka

And in the Catholic tradition, which is what I was trained in, there's this thing called purgatory. And this is also Eastern Orthodox. So most Christians that are not Protestant believe in this thing, this thing called purgatory. And it's like a way station for souls that aren't good enough to go to heaven, okay?

So if you are a normal person, not the best person, but not the worst person, you're not going to hell, right? So you go to this place called purgatory where it's supposed to be a place of purgation where you work off your sins and then that soul goes to heaven. Well, this was a doctrine of the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. And it somehow went away.

So if you are a normal person, not the best person, but not the worst person, you're not going to hell, right? So you go to this place called purgatory where it's supposed to be a place of purgation where you work off your sins and then that soul goes to heaven. Well, this was a doctrine of the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. And it somehow went away.

So if you are a normal person, not the best person, but not the worst person, you're not going to hell, right? So you go to this place called purgatory where it's supposed to be a place of purgation where you work off your sins and then that soul goes to heaven. Well, this was a doctrine of the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. And it somehow went away.

So it's still a doctrine, but Catholics don't know about it and they don't— pray for souls that are in purgatory anymore. It used to be a huge devotion. And I wanted to know why it disappeared. So I started to do archival research. So archives are libraries of old manuscripts and books from ancient times to the present.

So it's still a doctrine, but Catholics don't know about it and they don't— pray for souls that are in purgatory anymore. It used to be a huge devotion. And I wanted to know why it disappeared. So I started to do archival research. So archives are libraries of old manuscripts and books from ancient times to the present.

So it's still a doctrine, but Catholics don't know about it and they don't— pray for souls that are in purgatory anymore. It used to be a huge devotion. And I wanted to know why it disappeared. So I started to do archival research. So archives are libraries of old manuscripts and books from ancient times to the present.

And there's some really great archives in the United States and, of course, at the Vatican. So I started to look in these archives for what Catholics in 1200 and 1300, you know, throughout time, thought of purgatory, basically. And as I was doing that work, I was writing a book, like a survey of purgatory. Well, it turns out purgatory was actually a place in Ireland. So there's actually a place.

And there's some really great archives in the United States and, of course, at the Vatican. So I started to look in these archives for what Catholics in 1200 and 1300, you know, throughout time, thought of purgatory, basically. And as I was doing that work, I was writing a book, like a survey of purgatory. Well, it turns out purgatory was actually a place in Ireland. So there's actually a place.

And there's some really great archives in the United States and, of course, at the Vatican. So I started to look in these archives for what Catholics in 1200 and 1300, you know, throughout time, thought of purgatory, basically. And as I was doing that work, I was writing a book, like a survey of purgatory. Well, it turns out purgatory was actually a place in Ireland. So there's actually a place.

It's still there. It's on an island called Loch Dirk, which is Red Lake, the Red Lake in Ireland. And it was a place where people thought that they could go to a cave, and if they withstood it for 24 hours, their souls would be cleansed after that. And they did this in the late medieval time period to about 1200.

It's still there. It's on an island called Loch Dirk, which is Red Lake, the Red Lake in Ireland. And it was a place where people thought that they could go to a cave, and if they withstood it for 24 hours, their souls would be cleansed after that. And they did this in the late medieval time period to about 1200.

It's still there. It's on an island called Loch Dirk, which is Red Lake, the Red Lake in Ireland. And it was a place where people thought that they could go to a cave, and if they withstood it for 24 hours, their souls would be cleansed after that. And they did this in the late medieval time period to about 1200.

Yeah, yeah. So this cave would have demons and things like that in it. So you have to survive that. being assaulted by beings of the afterlife in this cave. So for the medieval mind, they don't separate out, like— demons and angels and stuff, those were part of their reality. So this cave was the place where they could go to an underground area where they could have these battles.

Yeah, yeah. So this cave would have demons and things like that in it. So you have to survive that. being assaulted by beings of the afterlife in this cave. So for the medieval mind, they don't separate out, like— demons and angels and stuff, those were part of their reality. So this cave was the place where they could go to an underground area where they could have these battles.

Yeah, yeah. So this cave would have demons and things like that in it. So you have to survive that. being assaulted by beings of the afterlife in this cave. So for the medieval mind, they don't separate out, like— demons and angels and stuff, those were part of their reality. So this cave was the place where they could go to an underground area where they could have these battles.

And if they survived those battles, their sins would be forgiven. And that's not the only purgatory cave. There was one in Italy as well. So this was where the doctrine kind of like

And if they survived those battles, their sins would be forgiven. And that's not the only purgatory cave. There was one in Italy as well. So this was where the doctrine kind of like

And if they survived those battles, their sins would be forgiven. And that's not the only purgatory cave. There was one in Italy as well. So this was where the doctrine kind of like

emerged from and then it became an actual doctrine and then as time went on people started to think of it not as a place but as a state of being so that's how purgatory changed and i wrote that book so so i wrote that book but during the study of that book i I came upon aerial phenomena. So Catholics from 1200 up to 1800 saw things in the sky that they couldn't identify.