Dimitry Toukhcher

It's about a billion.

The difference is about a billion, right?

So the $3 million that's spent on lobbying is like, again, you can say, oh, it's $3 million.

Sure, at face value.

But you have to have some basis of comparison.

Compared to what?

$3 million versus $85 million.

Who's got more power in government?

So can we say that if Israel spends $3 million a year, AIPAC spends $3 million a year on lobbying the US government, can we say that with $85 million a year, the American Realtors Association is causing the collapse of society?

Is that not more likely?

They have 30 times more power.

And that's just one small lobby group, right?

$85 million is even nothing in the face of lobbying.

I mean, the amount of money that weapons manufacturers will spend on lobbying, the amount of money that cigarette tobacco companies spend on lobbying, the amount of money that even plumbers, like plumbing associations, unions,

that are representing the most,

basic day-to-day operative tasks in the country are spending significantly more money.

So my friend then said to me, he goes, OK, well, if they're only spending $3 million, and by the way, he's a lawyer.

So we were like, we're literally checking records.

Like, OK, cool.

And this information is very public.