Dimitry Toukhcher

We can think of the American Revolution.

And these are wars that did not involve a genocide.

Can you have a war that's concurrent with a genocide at the same time?

meaning that it's happening as well as a genocide at the same time.

Of course, World War II, we had the Holocaust, which was a genocide in World War II.

And we'll talk about how do we measure that.

And World War I, Armenians were quite badly genocide under the Ottoman Empire, by the way.

So there was definitely a concurrent genocide and war.

You can also have a genocide without a war.

Of course.

Well, let's say, for example, it's happening in Nigeria today.

I mean, you're seeing a genocide.

There's no Christian army in Nigeria.

They're just coming in and killing Christians in Nigeria.

There's a legitimate genocide.

You can 100% have a genocide without a war.

The Uyghur Muslims in China, I can make a very strong case, are under genocide.

Because there's no war against China by the Uyghur Muslims.

They're just not liked by the community.

And that's not by the Communist Party.