Dino Mavrookas

It sounds crazy because it is crazy, but it doesn't mean it's not true. Man, man.

There certainly is going to be a very large market. Public sector meaning government and military, and I'll talk about government, and maybe you mean private sector as well, because we're looking at commercial applications as well as defense and military. And so when you talk about defense, we hit on it, right? The Navy has to go in this direction.

There certainly is going to be a very large market. Public sector meaning government and military, and I'll talk about government, and maybe you mean private sector as well, because we're looking at commercial applications as well as defense and military. And so when you talk about defense, we hit on it, right? The Navy has to go in this direction.

There certainly is going to be a very large market. Public sector meaning government and military, and I'll talk about government, and maybe you mean private sector as well, because we're looking at commercial applications as well as defense and military. And so when you talk about defense, we hit on it, right? The Navy has to go in this direction.

We're not gonna maintain naval superiority without autonomous surface vessels. But when you talk about commercial applications, there's a ton of commercial applications that we are focused on very deeply. And I'll kind of bifurcate them into two segments. One is the small autonomous surface vessels. And the other ones, the larger ones that we're getting into now.

We're not gonna maintain naval superiority without autonomous surface vessels. But when you talk about commercial applications, there's a ton of commercial applications that we are focused on very deeply. And I'll kind of bifurcate them into two segments. One is the small autonomous surface vessels. And the other ones, the larger ones that we're getting into now.

We're not gonna maintain naval superiority without autonomous surface vessels. But when you talk about commercial applications, there's a ton of commercial applications that we are focused on very deeply. And I'll kind of bifurcate them into two segments. One is the small autonomous surface vessels. And the other ones, the larger ones that we're getting into now.

So we started out building small autonomous boats. So right now our largest platform's 24 feet, which is, think of a full-size speedboat. We are moving up to a 40 and 60 foot full-size speedboat. We're also building a 150-foot autonomous cargo ship. Wow. That can be used for military and commercial applications, and we're building that now. Wow.

So we started out building small autonomous boats. So right now our largest platform's 24 feet, which is, think of a full-size speedboat. We are moving up to a 40 and 60 foot full-size speedboat. We're also building a 150-foot autonomous cargo ship. Wow. That can be used for military and commercial applications, and we're building that now. Wow.

So we started out building small autonomous boats. So right now our largest platform's 24 feet, which is, think of a full-size speedboat. We are moving up to a 40 and 60 foot full-size speedboat. We're also building a 150-foot autonomous cargo ship. Wow. That can be used for military and commercial applications, and we're building that now. Wow.

So when you think about commercial, there's Port and Harbor security, there's Coast Guard, there's critical infrastructure. If you just talk about how our... how our critical infrastructure that's on the coast right now is protected, it's quite scary. There's a buoy that says, keep out. Oh, man. So we won't even get into all of that, but there's a lot. We probably will soon. Yeah.

So when you think about commercial, there's Port and Harbor security, there's Coast Guard, there's critical infrastructure. If you just talk about how our... how our critical infrastructure that's on the coast right now is protected, it's quite scary. There's a buoy that says, keep out. Oh, man. So we won't even get into all of that, but there's a lot. We probably will soon. Yeah.

So when you think about commercial, there's Port and Harbor security, there's Coast Guard, there's critical infrastructure. If you just talk about how our... how our critical infrastructure that's on the coast right now is protected, it's quite scary. There's a buoy that says, keep out. Oh, man. So we won't even get into all of that, but there's a lot. We probably will soon. Yeah.

But there's a lot of commercial applications that we're building towards on our small vessels. Now, on the larger vessels, you're talking about cargo shipping, right? Why is the commercial market so important for the military? Because logistics. Well, not just logistics. But if you think about just capacity, this is why we get into when you build bespoke military systems.

But there's a lot of commercial applications that we're building towards on our small vessels. Now, on the larger vessels, you're talking about cargo shipping, right? Why is the commercial market so important for the military? Because logistics. Well, not just logistics. But if you think about just capacity, this is why we get into when you build bespoke military systems.

But there's a lot of commercial applications that we're building towards on our small vessels. Now, on the larger vessels, you're talking about cargo shipping, right? Why is the commercial market so important for the military? Because logistics. Well, not just logistics. But if you think about just capacity, this is why we get into when you build bespoke military systems.

And look, some systems have to be bespoke for the military. What do you mean by what is bespoke? Like, an F-35 is only ever going to be sold to the Navy and the Air Force. It's only military, right? But when you talk about ships, the most important thing is shipbuilding capacity. So the Navy only needs X number of ships during peacetime. But during a conflict, that goes to 10X or 20X or more.

And look, some systems have to be bespoke for the military. What do you mean by what is bespoke? Like, an F-35 is only ever going to be sold to the Navy and the Air Force. It's only military, right? But when you talk about ships, the most important thing is shipbuilding capacity. So the Navy only needs X number of ships during peacetime. But during a conflict, that goes to 10X or 20X or more.

And look, some systems have to be bespoke for the military. What do you mean by what is bespoke? Like, an F-35 is only ever going to be sold to the Navy and the Air Force. It's only military, right? But when you talk about ships, the most important thing is shipbuilding capacity. So the Navy only needs X number of ships during peacetime. But during a conflict, that goes to 10X or 20X or more.

So if you look at what China has done, Look, they're outbuilding the Navy, the US Navy in terms of combatant ships, three X to one, right? I will go through all the stats on the Chinese fleet and the US fleet and kind of what all that looks like when we talk Saronic. But they're outbuilding on just a military capacity today, three X to one.