Dino Mavrookas

So we have to think about not just how do we protect our solution, our products in the water, and we talk about how we do that with government standards and encryption and everything else, but how do we protect the company? The Chinese aren't, I mean, I hate to use this term, but they're not fighting fairly. And there's no such thing as a fair fight. You know that.

So we have to think about not just how do we protect our solution, our products in the water, and we talk about how we do that with government standards and encryption and everything else, but how do we protect the company? The Chinese aren't, I mean, I hate to use this term, but they're not fighting fairly. And there's no such thing as a fair fight. You know that.

So they're trying to take every advantage that they can. And if that means they can hack into our company and delay our production by six months, they might do that. So we have to make sure that we're protected 360 degrees, product, company, infrastructure, people. I mean, myself and the entire leadership team were, what's the word I'm looking for? We're basically banned from China.

So they're trying to take every advantage that they can. And if that means they can hack into our company and delay our production by six months, they might do that. So we have to make sure that we're protected 360 degrees, product, company, infrastructure, people. I mean, myself and the entire leadership team were, what's the word I'm looking for? We're basically banned from China.

So they're trying to take every advantage that they can. And if that means they can hack into our company and delay our production by six months, they might do that. So we have to make sure that we're protected 360 degrees, product, company, infrastructure, people. I mean, myself and the entire leadership team were, what's the word I'm looking for? We're basically banned from China.

I forget I'm blanking on the word. But they put out a term like our company and our leadership team is basically banned from China. Congratulations. I know. I was like, what the hell took him so long? But if I took a trip to Beijing right now, it would probably be a one-way trip with a lot of questions.

I forget I'm blanking on the word. But they put out a term like our company and our leadership team is basically banned from China. Congratulations. I know. I was like, what the hell took him so long? But if I took a trip to Beijing right now, it would probably be a one-way trip with a lot of questions.

I forget I'm blanking on the word. But they put out a term like our company and our leadership team is basically banned from China. Congratulations. I know. I was like, what the hell took him so long? But if I took a trip to Beijing right now, it would probably be a one-way trip with a lot of questions.

and putting in the hardware and software that you guys have developed to operate these ships without human manning no no no it would for a few reasons for a few reasons one and then i'll talk about two one is it'd be it'd be way cheaper to just build their ships It would actually be way cheaper than to go in and try to retrofit the entire naval fleet.

and putting in the hardware and software that you guys have developed to operate these ships without human manning no no no it would for a few reasons for a few reasons one and then i'll talk about two one is it'd be it'd be way cheaper to just build their ships It would actually be way cheaper than to go in and try to retrofit the entire naval fleet.

and putting in the hardware and software that you guys have developed to operate these ships without human manning no no no it would for a few reasons for a few reasons one and then i'll talk about two one is it'd be it'd be way cheaper to just build their ships It would actually be way cheaper than to go in and try to retrofit the entire naval fleet.

I can't even ballpark the amount of work and cost that that would entail. Not to mention the complexity behind actually integrating with hardware that wasn't selected purposefully to be controlled by software. So one of the things that we do is hardware software co-design, where our software engineers are picking all of the engines with our hardware engineers.

I can't even ballpark the amount of work and cost that that would entail. Not to mention the complexity behind actually integrating with hardware that wasn't selected purposefully to be controlled by software. So one of the things that we do is hardware software co-design, where our software engineers are picking all of the engines with our hardware engineers.

I can't even ballpark the amount of work and cost that that would entail. Not to mention the complexity behind actually integrating with hardware that wasn't selected purposefully to be controlled by software. So one of the things that we do is hardware software co-design, where our software engineers are picking all of the engines with our hardware engineers.

Like, yeah, okay, I can control that engine through software because it has an API and it has this and it has that. Okay, cool, yes, you hardware engineer can now select that. That hasn't been done on naval ships today. Secondly, and more importantly, I am a very, we need manned ships. We still need the Navy ships that we have. Why do we need manned ships?

Like, yeah, okay, I can control that engine through software because it has an API and it has this and it has that. Okay, cool, yes, you hardware engineer can now select that. That hasn't been done on naval ships today. Secondly, and more importantly, I am a very, we need manned ships. We still need the Navy ships that we have. Why do we need manned ships?

Like, yeah, okay, I can control that engine through software because it has an API and it has this and it has that. Okay, cool, yes, you hardware engineer can now select that. That hasn't been done on naval ships today. Secondly, and more importantly, I am a very, we need manned ships. We still need the Navy ships that we have. Why do we need manned ships?

Well, China's not the only adversary we're facing, and it's not the only way to project power. The only way to project power is not just through autonomy. Think about aircraft carriers, for example. You go back to, well, let's go ahead. December 7th, 1941, Pearl Harbor. Before December 7th, the center of naval warfare revolved around the battleship.

Well, China's not the only adversary we're facing, and it's not the only way to project power. The only way to project power is not just through autonomy. Think about aircraft carriers, for example. You go back to, well, let's go ahead. December 7th, 1941, Pearl Harbor. Before December 7th, the center of naval warfare revolved around the battleship.

Well, China's not the only adversary we're facing, and it's not the only way to project power. The only way to project power is not just through autonomy. Think about aircraft carriers, for example. You go back to, well, let's go ahead. December 7th, 1941, Pearl Harbor. Before December 7th, the center of naval warfare revolved around the battleship.