Dino Mavrookas

And when you talk about cost drivers and how you're more efficient for the taxpayer, and then again, keeping people safe, I don't know the right mix of how many people do we need total in the Navy as we adopt these. Nobody knows. The Navy doesn't know because we don't have them yet. And so that's okay, right? How do you figure out all the con ops?

And when you talk about cost drivers and how you're more efficient for the taxpayer, and then again, keeping people safe, I don't know the right mix of how many people do we need total in the Navy as we adopt these. Nobody knows. The Navy doesn't know because we don't have them yet. And so that's okay, right? How do you figure out all the con ops?

How do you figure out what you need 10 years from now? You just, you start doing it. And it all kind of, you figure it out as you go. The, hey, we'll sit around and we'll figure this out on a whiteboard and we'll build PowerPoint slides for four years, that needs to stop. So what the ratio or what overall Navy Manning looks like 10 years from now? I don't know.

How do you figure out what you need 10 years from now? You just, you start doing it. And it all kind of, you figure it out as you go. The, hey, we'll sit around and we'll figure this out on a whiteboard and we'll build PowerPoint slides for four years, that needs to stop. So what the ratio or what overall Navy Manning looks like 10 years from now? I don't know.

How do you figure out what you need 10 years from now? You just, you start doing it. And it all kind of, you figure it out as you go. The, hey, we'll sit around and we'll figure this out on a whiteboard and we'll build PowerPoint slides for four years, that needs to stop. So what the ratio or what overall Navy Manning looks like 10 years from now? I don't know.

But the number of humans that will be put potentially at risk will be exponentially lower.

But the number of humans that will be put potentially at risk will be exponentially lower.

But the number of humans that will be put potentially at risk will be exponentially lower.

Well, it goes back to my point earlier. I'm firmly not in the camp of we need less manned Navy ships right now. I don't think that's the right answer right now. Maybe 10, 20 years from now as everything evolves. We still have the most powerful Navy in the world. If we went to war with China tomorrow, would we win? Yeah, 100%.

Well, it goes back to my point earlier. I'm firmly not in the camp of we need less manned Navy ships right now. I don't think that's the right answer right now. Maybe 10, 20 years from now as everything evolves. We still have the most powerful Navy in the world. If we went to war with China tomorrow, would we win? Yeah, 100%.

Well, it goes back to my point earlier. I'm firmly not in the camp of we need less manned Navy ships right now. I don't think that's the right answer right now. Maybe 10, 20 years from now as everything evolves. We still have the most powerful Navy in the world. If we went to war with China tomorrow, would we win? Yeah, 100%.

Well, I don't know about 100%, but I believe, like Dino's belief, 100%, right? Because we're the United States. Now, maybe that's naive view. Maybe that's a disputed view. But I believe we have the most powerful military in the world still today. I don't think the Chinese ships have the capabilities that we have. I don't think their sailors have the resolve that we have. Right?

Well, I don't know about 100%, but I believe, like Dino's belief, 100%, right? Because we're the United States. Now, maybe that's naive view. Maybe that's a disputed view. But I believe we have the most powerful military in the world still today. I don't think the Chinese ships have the capabilities that we have. I don't think their sailors have the resolve that we have. Right?

Well, I don't know about 100%, but I believe, like Dino's belief, 100%, right? Because we're the United States. Now, maybe that's naive view. Maybe that's a disputed view. But I believe we have the most powerful military in the world still today. I don't think the Chinese ships have the capabilities that we have. I don't think their sailors have the resolve that we have. Right?

But the trend lines are going in the wrong direction. Completely wrong direction. To where I don't know how much longer that's true for. Right? And so what we need to do is not replace and shrink the Navy that we have. It's augment and force multiply the Navy that we have. It's make our Navy 10 times more powerful, 100 times more powerful through autonomy so that we can

But the trend lines are going in the wrong direction. Completely wrong direction. To where I don't know how much longer that's true for. Right? And so what we need to do is not replace and shrink the Navy that we have. It's augment and force multiply the Navy that we have. It's make our Navy 10 times more powerful, 100 times more powerful through autonomy so that we can

But the trend lines are going in the wrong direction. Completely wrong direction. To where I don't know how much longer that's true for. Right? And so what we need to do is not replace and shrink the Navy that we have. It's augment and force multiply the Navy that we have. It's make our Navy 10 times more powerful, 100 times more powerful through autonomy so that we can

crush any hope the Chinese have of starting a conflict with us. That's the goal, right? I think it's a long time out. And I take your point, a flag officer, are they protecting their jobs and their domains? And is Congress really going to be like, let's go shrink the Navy? I don't even know if that's the answer. Right now, we're just focused on how do we make the Navy more powerful?

crush any hope the Chinese have of starting a conflict with us. That's the goal, right? I think it's a long time out. And I take your point, a flag officer, are they protecting their jobs and their domains? And is Congress really going to be like, let's go shrink the Navy? I don't even know if that's the answer. Right now, we're just focused on how do we make the Navy more powerful?

crush any hope the Chinese have of starting a conflict with us. That's the goal, right? I think it's a long time out. And I take your point, a flag officer, are they protecting their jobs and their domains? And is Congress really going to be like, let's go shrink the Navy? I don't even know if that's the answer. Right now, we're just focused on how do we make the Navy more powerful?