Diogo Rau
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first heard Feb 2025
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I also think that in a hospital environment, you could tie it into systems and make sure that you're actually administering the correct medicine, not something that you can imagine a alert flashing up on the healthcare provider's device if it's the wrong medicine.
The pill itself, I don't know if we'll ever get past the consumer stage. acceptance of RFID, like actually being in the pillow itself. But if we could get there, that's not super far out. That's probably, you know, probably five years out. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not, the technology is there.
No, we've not produced a wearable of our own. And it ends up being a little bit challenging as a manufacturer. It'd be a lot easier if we didn't make drugs to actually launch a wearable. But because you make drugs, then the question is, well, are you using this to, does it have to be, is it required for somebody taking the medicine?
So there's a whole host of things that makes it really complicated for us to do it. So for the most part, where we use these things are in clinical trials.
If you're a nerd out on all of this. I think it's probably on the scale of two to three, I think. I think there are only so many places that you're willing to put a wearable. You can imagine there's your ring, there's a watch. You might be able to, if you've ever had a Zio patch or anything like that, a heart patch, those are not terribly uncomfortable. Insoles, you could imagine. But after that,
You don't have that many more places, I think, that you'd be willing to wear something. So I'll go with those three tops.
Yeah. There's lots and lots and lots and lots of things. No, I thought you were going to go down a different path, which is like the, what you might like enhancing your eyes or your hearing or things like that, which is also like, that's just another fascinating space of science.
We do that with some of our clinical trials. You'll get like, here are the devices to take with you. But if you look at weight loss medications, we've, we're already all doing that right now, like, because we all have scales in our house, right? And so, and so I think that is a great example of like, if you give feedback to the person taking the medicine, they're
they're going to be more likely to stay on it. At least that's one of my hypotheses. I think that if you took away scales and you took away mirrors, I think a lot more people would drop off the chronic weight management medicines early on. But the fact is, when you get on the scale and you can see, hey, I lost some weight, you want to stay on it.
don't have anything like that for statins or anything else, right? And that's, again, like why people drop off. Just imagine if you could just see, oh, hey, actually, you know, or I'm taking cholesterol medication and you know what? Hey, my cholesterol went down versus yesterday, not versus three months ago.
Correct.
That's my hope. But the data, ultimately, the first part of your question, the data really should be with the patient. And I think there's a tendency to say, even still today in this industry, that the data is really for the healthcare provider. And I think that's a mistake.
I think ultimately the data is for the patient, and the patient can choose to share it with the healthcare provider, and the healthcare provider can look at it. But it really is, it's really the patient's data.
I think the continuous measurement part is, you're absolutely correct about it. But I think it needs to be, I think she always needs to be able to see the data herself. Yes, you can see that.
And by the way, that's one of those things that sounds obvious if you're coming from outside the industry to inside, but inside the industry, it's like, wait, why would you share the data with the patient themselves? That's something that the healthcare provider should see first. I mean, What happens if your mom misinterprets the data without the advice of a healthcare provider?
That's kind of the big caution that would keep the industry from saying your mom should be able to see that data itself. But I take a very different view on that.
right? This is... That's, if you don't mind me going on a tangent on that too, that's one of the reasons why I'm really, really excited about like how we can change things too. Because if you look at it today, it's, there are so many barriers to getting medicine. You know, like first you have to get a doctor's appointment, which we've all suffered through. Like it can take months to get one.
Then even after you have one, then you also have to be able to get it actually get access to the medicine, which is a big problem because I don't know if you've heard the stats before, but 45 million Americans live in pharmacy deserts. 46% of counties in the country are in pharmacy deserts where there's no pharmacy within 15 minutes of your house. And so I
I think, and so if you add all of that together, it can take months from like the moment you say, you know what, I'm not feeling well, or there's something I want to change in my life to like the day that you get the medicine. I want to bring that like down to like the same day.
You should be able to say, you know what, today's the day that I want to do something and you should be able to go in, you know, get a telehealth appointment. And if a medicine is appropriate, get it shipped and get it arrived, delivered, you know, the exact same day.
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