Diplo

man, build a little community, like, you know, build locally.

It's really hard to go straight into like the Blake Benny, Tedder world.

Like you have to grind your way into that.

Like you have to find partnerships all the way into it.

Like my first one was like Ron and it was like now, you know, Tedder or Bang, whatever it is, you have to just make, find relationships and always show up for them and just do your best.

They're gonna always be like, damn, this guy's good.

Let's call him in.

He's consistent.

You know, that's a good way to be a good songwriter or producer.

Um, as an artist, shit, man, like I was just talking to Gigi Perez, you know, who did Sailor Song.

She was coming over here writing before like any of that happened.

She was like a friend of mine's, uh, a man.

I knew her manager and I was like, her voice is crazy.

Let her come and write some stuff.

So he wrote some records and then out of nowhere, I'm like, well, you're huge.

Like you're like Sailor Song is like a huge record.

And I was telling her, like, you already have a Spotify huge record.

Why are you going to sign to a major label?

And I think there's some things that she didn't want to do that the major provided for her.

But I make sure she had leverage a lot to sign that deal because she already had a number one record on her own.