DJ Shipley

Most guys have relaxed grooming standards, long hair, big beards.

You don't take your photo.

You're not on social media.

You're not writing books.

You just live that life.

And to them, it's no different than playing on a professional baseball team, football team.

They show up every single day trying to earn their seat at the table every single day, and they put the group before themselves and everything they do.

If you do that, you'll be a successful player.

And I've never met anybody...

that was worth his weight that was not obsessed.

Nobody that I would ever clone that didn't wake up every day going, I can't believe I get paid to do this.

You don't get paid a lot, but if I'm honest now, and I think everybody would say it too, 90% of the time, if you had the financial means, you'd pay to do that job.

Like if there was a, if there was a club you could join and do that, I'd swipe plastic so fast.

It's an amazing experience.

But I think a lot of people think that you're kind of like a caveman.

There's no empathy.

You know, people aren't well-educated.

They're not well-read.

They're just grunts.

Too many tattoos.