DJ Shipley

And then it's almost like an ego check.

Like how close can I come or how successful can I be with everything you do?

How much can I plan?

How much can I dedicate my life to buy down as much risk as humanly possible to be effective on the battlefield?

Whatever that battlefield might be.

a war equivalent of an extreme sport that people decide to do recreationally exactly exactly you'd be surprised how many guys do extreme sports why they're in or that was what they did when they came in like mine was skateboarding you got guys and he was big into skydiving base jumping wingsuiting all of that how many guys come from the mma world ultra competitive worlds and we get inside there it's okay well if i mess this up there is no bronze medal

When you're putting your friends' lives in danger, that's where it's not exciting.

You're trying to buy down as much of that as possible.

And that's really what they want you to do is just obsess over your craft where you can control all the variables because it makes it safer.

And that's where a lot of the leadership really don't buy off on that.

If you want to make skydiving safer, make it mandatory to skydive more.

And I'll tell you the same thing.

The most dangerous person in the military is a skydiver with 180 jumps that thinks he is a ninja.

He's not.

If you want to make it safe, have thousands of skydives and jump every single week.

Jump every single month and stack those years over years, and then you buy down the majority of the risk.

The same thing with CTB shooting.

He's got to have more than that.

I'm at 4,000.

He's been jumping longer than me.