DJ Shipley
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Not many, but a lot of people have tried.
Yeah.
I mean, somebody asked me the other day about David Goggins.
And they're like, what do you think about David Goggins?
And I'm like, when I was in the teams, he was different because he was a poster child.
He was an athlete for the Navy.
I'll say between David Goggins and Jocko, those two people have probably put more people in the services over the last 10 years than anybody else in the last 50.
They just have.
Millions and millions of people have read their books, seen all of that.
They've become cops, firemen, Navy SEALs.
They've joined the Coast Guard.
Yeah, they all do.
Like they did it right.
They did a good job.
They put them up on a pedestal.
They weren't talking about war stories.
They weren't doing all this stuff.
But you take that and then you take the actual operational side of it and you're like, well, you're okay with they do that.
Yeah.
But you can't do that.