Dmitri Dolgov

insanely thrilling.

Yes.

When you talk about the progress in AI, what are the most fun parts of it for you these days?

Is this the perfect example to explain what we were talking about earlier?

The value of one fusion across a sensor suite, but then secondly, building, I mean, relatedly, building an intermediate representation of what's going on, where if you're just dealing with pixels, I mean, the person behind the bus does not exist in pixel space.

And so you need to have some representation of the world that exists to be able to reason about the person behind the bus.

Very, very difficult.

What metrics can you share on just where the business is at today in terms of rides, revenues, cars on the roads?

Yes, yes.

It seems now clear that in 15 years, most miles that are driven will be autonomous.

Like, there'll be some burning period and, you know, there's lots of old cars on the road.

Like, I think it'll actually take a little while.

And...

some of that will be by level four level five systems expanding in new cities and uh that expansion continuing some of it will be you know you referenced existing driver assist systems and kind of getting up to uh you know level two and level three and existing systems in across current car brands getting more and more capable what do you think that

working your way up from the lower levels versus working your way expanding from existing products like Waymo, what will that convergence look like?

Because we're going to eat it from both sides.

Okay, but you think...

One cannot work one's way up from driver assist systems to full self-driving.

You think you have to start building a full self-driving system.

Yes.