Dmitriy Pavlov

There's small appliances being launched still.

This is not going away.

I mean, these are billion, multi-billion dollar businesses that people still need to work on, right?

These times are shifting priorities, but they're not completely throwing the baby out with the bathwater in terms of what's important still.

I'm curious what your perspective is.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

But just to just kind of put a put a last last point on it is the systems integrators are really right now really struggling to understand what are all the customers telling them.

There's a lot of people calling support support centers saying these are all issues to us.

These centers are still really struggling to understand what.

all the massive issues are.

There's system-wide errors everywhere.

There's timeouts.

There are things that are outside of the immediate priorities that also need to be focused on.

And when brands drop those, that's not a great move.

So we're focusing on the use cases that are not just top of mind, but we're focusing on all of the long tail as well, which actually drive a lot of the revenue for a lot of these brands, what we're finding.

So next time we talk, I'd love to actually share some use cases of the brands we're working with.

And I'd be very curious to your point to see where this shifts.

I mean, you know, as an early stages, I'm a first time founder.

I'm trying to navigate through these waters, you know, with with everyone as well.