Doctor Mike

you know, particle physics is doing good research.

Well, he got into these apex journals and I can't read the research.

I'm the provost, you know, I'm the dean of arts and sciences.

How am I going to, you know, I got my degrees in English literature.

How am I going to actually get that?

There's a bunch of things that are wrong with that.

And part of it is kind of a culture that doesn't

that doesn't value ethics as much as it actually should.

And that's one of the things that I guess that's maybe that keeps me up at night even more about the behavioral sciences is that we don't have a sense of what's good and right.

We don't have a sense of actually using science for what really matters, which is bringing more love and goodness into the world.

It's more about how can this actually feather my nest?

Yeah, not just make a buck, get famous, have more power.

That's not great.

That's really not great at all.

I mean, my guess is that's not why you got into medicine.

You got into medicine to care for patients.

And you're in public education on topics of health and wellness because you want people to be better off, right?

And that's, by the way, that's the meaning of life.

Making people better.

Well, it's love.